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Old February 7 2014, 12:57 PM   #211
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Merlanthe, I hope your personal issues resolve soon, and in as positive a manner as possible. I'm enjoying your take on the series.
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Old February 7 2014, 01:59 PM   #212
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With regards to North Star, at least Reed remembered those Phase Pistols have a stun setting and shot the hostage.
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Old February 8 2014, 12:27 AM   #213
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Extinction
I do find it quite hypocritical of Archer at the end. He and Phlox are quite happy to preserve the last remaining sample of a dangerous and highly infectious mutagenic virus so that the species it represents wont be entirely wiped form existence but previously were quite happy to allow a living species that had asked for their help to die out because it was ‘what nature intended’.
I agree, I hated the end for the same reason. I enjoyed Linda Park in this episode though with her alien movements and body language. I actually wondered if it was a different actress.

Rajin
I was extremely annoyed at Archer being duped so easily (again...) and giving her free reign of the ship, as well as how seemingly easily the Xindi rescue her. Apparently MACO's aren't special forces quality. Even discounting their firearms not being effective, they could have used stun grenades more effectively. Overall I didn't care for this episode much either, especially with it following Extinction which I wasn't pleased with.


Twilight
At first I didn't think I would like it with its opening, but it ended up being my one of my favorites. When it skipped to the future and we realize T'Pol goes through this every morning for YEARS, I thought it was a great blend of Vulcan patience and human compassion. Then I questioned whether it was all for guilt or if she cared, but Blalock's performance was outstanding, in my opinion, because she subtly conveyed how deeply she really did care, despite what she tells the doctor later in the episode. And it was obvious there would be a reset-button at the end, but what it turned out to be surprised me. And although it didn't further the story at all, it did show the consequences of failure in their mission. And I thought the scene with T'Pol flying the docked ship into the other was friggen awesome.

Watching Twilight made me want to join the forum and start talking about the show with others.
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Old February 8 2014, 12:35 AM   #214
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With regards to North Star, at least Reed remembered those Phase Pistols have a stun setting and shot the hostage.
Another good episode, albeit a fairly cliched western, I enjoyed it. I like the MACO's sniper (ish) rifle. The female MACO takes out more baddies then everyone else combined I think. In fact I think the first person Malcolm shot was T'Pol. And Archer beats the villain in a scuffle with only one good arm. I like how Archer frequently gets into fist fights, just like Kirk in TOS. I also half expected him to tell the humans that they might be better off here in the long run with the Xindi bent on destroying Earth and all. Some people mentioned him getting involved when he wouldn't in other circumstances, but the fact that these were humans sort of made the difference to him and to me. All in all I thought it was a good stand-alone episode.
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Old February 8 2014, 11:21 AM   #215
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"Twilight" was one of my favorite episodes, but I've recently seem Memento and now can't help but see them in the writing room, going "we have to make a Trek version of this!"
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Old February 8 2014, 09:22 PM   #216
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"Twilight" was one of my favorite episodes, but I've recently seem Memento and now can't help but see them in the writing room, going "we have to make a Trek version of this!"
That's certainly plausible. Memento was a cult classic, everyone I knew was renting it and spreading the word about it in the early 2000s.
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Old February 15 2014, 01:14 AM   #217
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Just out of curiosity can anyone tell from my posts which characters are my favourites so far?

Cant recall if i have mentioned them as being my favourites before just wondering if its obvious from my posts.
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Old February 15 2014, 04:51 AM   #218
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Merlanthe wrote: View Post
Just out of curiosity can anyone tell from my posts which characters are my favourites so far?

Cant recall if i have mentioned them as being my favourites before just wondering if its obvious from my posts.
Trip and T'Pol?
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Old February 15 2014, 08:00 AM   #219
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Merlanthe wrote: View Post
Okay so i recently acquired the complete all 4 seasons of Enterprise on dvd. I've only ever seen a handful of episodes from the first season back when the show first premiered on tv (gosh it seems so long long ago) and a couple episodes that were on my borg/time travel/alternate reality fan collectives.

So i wouldnt say i was a complete stranger to the series but apart from the aforementioned handful of episodes i have a lot of unseen material and am quite excited at the prospect of the many many epsiodes (entire seasons of episodes!) of unseen trek that i have yet to discover

Im going to post my thoughts on each episode on this thread in case any one is interested to read them starting with my thoughts on the pilot Broken Bow tomorrow.
I tried this with similar viewing habits for the original run. I couldn't get through season 3. 12 years since the premiere. Wow.
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Old August 30 2014, 12:03 PM   #220
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Ok im back will start posting my thoughts on episodes again sometime this week once ive sorted them out.

Oh and my favourite characters are Reed and Hoshi i forgot id asked this
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Old August 31 2014, 11:08 AM   #221
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Welcome back!! Looking fwd to your posts
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Old September 1 2014, 10:45 PM   #222
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Proving Ground

The return of Shran accompanied by some devious politics. Well not so much politics but there was still a layer of deception going on which seems to happen whenever the Andorians are onscreen. As soon as you see their twitchy blue antennae you know someone somewhere is gonna get lied to or betrayed or double crossed.

It might just be me here but it seemed fairly obvious from the start that Shran wasn’t just there to help Archer but had a mission to complete, one that he wasn’t very happy with. Instead of the loud confrontational headstrong Shran we usually see he was far too quiet, far too calm and far too accommodating. He also seemed quite miserable with himself. I really liked that scene where he was sitting despondently at his desk having reported the success of his mission. As soon as he is informed of the Enterprise appearing on sensors he perks right up. Yeah betraying Archer really didn’t sit well with him. After all the Andorian high command people might view Archer as an expendable pink skin but to the Andorian mining consortium he’s a precious resource :P

I did spend a lot of time this episode watching the Andorians antennae’s trying to figure out a pattern of what emotions their movements might indicate to no avail. I give this episode four and half stars.

Stratagem

I could see where this episode was heading right from the opening scene and right up til Archer exited the pretend escape shuttle I kept hoping it would follow a different path because I really didn’t like Archer and the crew tricking Degra like this.

Even if it works out in getting the info they need to stop the weapon it doesn’t seem like it would help in the long term with building a trusting and peaceful relationship between Xindi and humans which is what they really need if they don’t want the Xindi to just go off and build another weapon. This really elaborate deception seems like the kind of thing that will come back to bite them in the butt.

It also seems really unstarfleet like to me. What happened to all that bright eyed idealism and moral superiority that Archer used to burst at the seams with? The expanse has changed him and the episode does a good job of showing how desperate and harsh Archer is becoming with having all the pressure of saving humanity on his shoulders. But at the same time it doesn’t feel like things have gotten desperate enough to justify this morally dubious deception.

And just because Archer has had weird arm worm things done to him as a prisoner doesn’t mean he would be expert at getting them out of someone else’s arm or even his own. That’s just silly. I’m surprised Degra didn’t call tribble poop on that. Overall it’s a good episode but I just didn’t like it I’m giving this episode three stars.
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Old September 10 2014, 03:22 PM   #223
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We get to explore the mystery of the spheres some more yaaay. I must admit as interesting as the sphere plotline was with the weird guy from the alternate plain of existence going from pitiful victim of scientific experimentation to walking through walls and threatening the ship it’s the subplots involving main characters that stick in my mind more. Also with such a long gap in between episodes I may have forgotten a few details. I’m assuming the spatial anomaly creating spheres will tie in with the Xindi arc somehow as there is too much focus being placed on it not to be important also the spheres affect the entire expanse which is where the Xindi’s live right?

I found this whole Trip/T’pol subplot of are you sure you’re not jealous, because you sure are acting jealous? annoying. Imo its been kinda obvious since the first season when he decided to eat dessert at her table that Trip is attracted to T’pol and his relationship with the female maco seems quite sudden and contrived. I suppose that Trip becoming involved with another woman was probably the only way T’Pol would ever acknowledge or even realise the attraction between them but still I found it annoying.

The conflict between Reed and Hayes was more interesting and realistic. Reed is the Enterprise tactical/security officer with experience of the dangers presented by space travel. But Enterprise was intended as a vessel of exploration not a battleship. Hayes and his macos have been specially trained for military purposes. If it ever came down to a choice between the two then it really is a close call of who is better to lead. Luckily there is no choice to be made Reed is the one in command because the macos are there to help and support the Enterprise crew in their mission not supplant them. But at the same time Reed’s naturally suspicious and self doubting personality lead him to see a conflict of authority with Hayes and his hostile behaviour toward Hayes serves to make that conflict a reality.

Reeds behaviour throughout this episode does a lot to escalate the situation beyond reasonable levels when he could have easily calmed it down just by being more positive and open to Hayes suggestions. By the end of the episode they seem to have beaten each other into an uneasy truce of sorts and gained a grudging respect for the others abilities but they are far form best buds and the conflict between them isn’t one that’s easily solved. Up til now the macos have kinda been there in the background ever willing to lend a helping hand but not really getting much focus til now. Im guessing the female maco Trip was romancing will fade back into the background now that his attention is focused solely upon T’pol but the conflict between Reed and Hayes probably isn’t over or at least it shouldn’t be.

Overall four stars.

Doctors Orders

I cant help but compare this episode to the Voyager one with Seven watching over a sleeping crew.

Having Denobulan’s hallucinate when stressed seems like a plot contrivance. Like I said the gap between watching has left some details a little blurred so please correct me if I’m wrong but I can’t recall seeing Phlox hallucinate before even in situations just as stressful. I find Seven’s loneliness and inability to cope with long periods of isolation because of her past as a Borg drone a more plausible reason for bizarre hallucinations.

Having said that the hallucination of Xindi insectoids boarding the vessel works very well as it is a reasonable fear and plausible occurrence. T’Pols presence is also plausibly real up to a point. Its little things like how she never appears onscreen by herself but only with the doctor and how her knowledge is limited to what he himself knows or things that he may have plausibly picked up through observation that give her hallucinatory status away. Little things that could be overlooked given the claustrophobic seeming way the episode is shot and the possible explanation that her ability to think and recall knowledge has been affected by the whatever it is their travelling through.

There is also the possibility that there might be nothing wrong with the engine and Phlox is merely hallucinating the problem and in trying to save the ship might doom it instead. All in all a good episode but not brilliant. It does illustrate the crews desperation as they try to reach the Xindi weapon before its launched that they are so willing to leave themselves defenceless and dependant upon one individual in a situation where so many things could go wrong. Overall I give this episode three and half stars.

Hatchery

I dont really have much to say about this episode. It felt like a familiar setup going in though I’m not sure from where. I was fully expecting the crew to go the extra mile to save the hatchery and be rewarded for their efforts by the Xindi insectoids rethinking their opinion on humans. Obviously it didn’t go in that direction at all though once Archer started to display erratic and out of character behaviour it was obvious he was being affected by the squirty insectoid egg incident. It was a little annoying waiting for the rest of the crew to cotton on but that mutiny was great. The Reed and Hayes conflict is mostly resolved but can still be seen in subtle little moments.

Overall I give this episode three stars.
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Old September 10 2014, 05:37 PM   #224
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Enjoy this thread - reading it is like a trip down memory road! I did watch the first run and am now seriously planning on a rewatch! Thank you!
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Old September 26 2014, 12:43 PM   #225
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I watched these two episodes back to back because despite the late hour the tense cliffhanger ending of Azati Prime really grabbed my attention and made it so I had to watch the next episode right then and there. But despite the great ending there was a lot about this episode that didn’t work for me. I feel that Archer made a lot of reallyt stupid decisions.

In my review of Stratagem I said that it didn’t feel like things had gotten desperate enough to justify the morally dubious deception of Degra. This was mainly because with Degra it felt like Archer hadn’t properly explored all his options before jumping straight to the most morally dubious one but I was hard pressed to think of other options that would have worked and they didn’t know how long they could hold Degra before other Xindi started to wonder where he was and came looking for him.

With the unarmed Xindi outpost Archer had two whole hours in which to decide what to do, no reason to rush into any kind of decision and a lot of really obvious options that did not require any kind of bloodshed like maybe beaming up the guys stationed there and holding them in the enterprise brig whilst beaming down a couple crew men to figure out what useful data might be stored there and how the outpost worked so that they could use it to their advantage.

And yet Archer takes almost two minutes to decide to blow it up killing the two Xindi stationed there who were probably already freaking out over having no weapons or means of calling for help whilst a big armed ship was overhead. He doesn’t even consider any other options just jumps straight to the most morally reprehensible one which is made even stupider by how no one onboard enterprise realised that the observation outpost failing to check in would be just as suspicious to the paranoid Xindi as if they had broadcast an alarm.

To follow up that act of unethical stupidity he decides to be the one to do the suicide run mission on which the fate of earth may depend. Travis is the best pilot and, I hate to say it, the most expendable. Even councillor Troi was able to grasp that idea but no Archer has to go. He feels guilty over all the deaths and harm that have happened during this mission, including the two Xindi in the unarmed outpost, and doesn’t want to have to order anyone else to their death. Which is understandable but by refusing to send his most qualified and most expendable crewmember and insisting that he, the captain and arguably the most important crewmember, do it himself he endangers the entire mission.

As it turns out the weapon has already been moved and he gets captured instead and it all works out to his advantage in the end even the erase Degra’s memory stuff but still. Bad leadership decisions.

Azati Prime gets two and half stars.

Damage.

The title of this episode refers to many things. The physical damage done to the ship. It will take a long time to fix and they don’t have all the parts that they need. They don’t know why the Xindi called off their attack or when they might come back. The Enterprise is a sitting target. Then there is the damage done the crew both in physical injuries and emotional following the sudden and violent loss of friends/coworkers.

Which leads us to T’pol who has been damaged by her addiction/deliberate exposure to trillium D which certainly explains her odd behaviour in last episode and this one but would have been nice to be foreshadowed a bit more. As it was her assertion that they needed to reach a specific cargo bay because it held stuff needed to rebuild the ship did not appear to be anything suspicious until she suddenly suited up and went wandering by herself at night and nearly got squished to death before doing weird science stuff at which I was very confused.

She already has the pa’nar syndrome thing now she has a trillium D addiction? Why do the writers feel the need to keep giving her plot devices that make her lose control of her emotions. Do they not think we can relate to her unless she gets all emotional.

And finally we have the moral and psychological damage done to Archer. For the past few episodes we have seen his desperation and pressure of saving humanity slowly eat away at him making him more cynical and harsh and more willing to set aside his own morals and do bad things for the success of the mission. This is the first episode where he seems to fully realise what has happened to him when, in order to reach a meeting with the Xindi in time, he has to order the theft of a warp coil from a ship of friendly explorers leaving them stranded light years from home. He has become the very thing he once stood against and it shows just how much Enterprise has fallen form what they once were.

This episode gets four stars.
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