Ro Laren - Page 5

JirinPanthosa · December 25 2012, 01:10 AM

Ro wearing an earring doesn't make her religious. Several atheists whose family are Christian celebrate Christmas. When it comes to ritual, culture and religion are heavily intertwined.

Seeing that contradiction would have made Ro wonderful in DS9, but after seeing what Kira became, I'm glad we had Kira.

DalekJim · December 26 2012, 01:10 AM

Ro Laren is possibly my fave TNG character after Picard but there'd be no need for her in DS9 if we also had Kira. And I wouldn't lose Kira for anything.

Agonizer · December 27 2012, 08:57 AM

She also turned down a role on Voyager. I'm not for sure, but I would think B'Elanna replaced Ro.

R. Star · December 27 2012, 01:18 PM

Agonizer wrote:

She also turned down a role on Voyager. I'm not for sure, but I would think B'Elanna replaced Ro.

That's interesting, I had never heard that before. Do you have a source on that one?

JediKnightButler · January 13 2013, 06:25 AM

I liked her character arc and her TNG "swan song" in "Preemptive Strike" but, after watching DS9, was disappointed that she didn't turn up as part of the Maquis at some point, which would've made some interesting conflicts between Kira and her and Sisko and her (I'm sure that Starfleet would have been hunting her given her betrayal in PS). It would be sad to think that she perished along with the rest of the Maquis when the Dominion came into the AQ on the side of Cardassia. Come to think of it, they never really explained (at least not on DS9, maybe they touched on it on VOY) what happened to the surviving Maqis. Were they all jailed, were they pardoned for their crimes and repatriated as Federation citizens and given new homes? When the Dominion/Cardassians wiped out the Maquis colonies it was basically a unilateral end to the Cardassian-Federation treaty that lead to the creation of the DMZ and the colonies, so their whole cause had been rendered moot. Sort of depressing when you think about it..........

Agonizer · January 13 2013, 09:40 AM

R. Star wrote:

Agonizer wrote:

She also turned down a role on Voyager. I'm not for sure, but I would think B'Elanna replaced Ro.

That's interesting, I had never heard that before. Do you have a source on that one?

I'm just speculating. Ro was in the Maquis, so I'm guessing one of the other Maquis characters would have been initially her. It could have been Chakotay possibly, but that seems less likely.

Marten · January 13 2013, 11:17 AM

DalekJim wrote:

Ro Laren is possibly my fave TNG character after Picard but there'd be no need for her in DS9 if we also had Kira. And I wouldn't lose Kira for anything.

Kira was created to replace her, I believe. Perhaps we got lucky.

Tosk · January 13 2013, 11:50 AM

Agonizer wrote:

R. Star wrote:

Agonizer wrote:

She also turned down a role on Voyager. I'm not for sure, but I would think B'Elanna replaced Ro.

That's interesting, I had never heard that before. Do you have a source on that one?

I'm just speculating. Ro was in the Maquis, so I'm guessing one of the other Maquis characters would have been initially her. It could have been Chakotay possibly, but that seems less likely.

I believe R. Star is looking for a source on the "turned down a role on Voyager" part, not what role it was. I've never heard that before either, so I'm curious now.

R. Star · January 13 2013, 06:30 PM

Tosk wrote:

Agonizer wrote:

R. Star wrote:

That's interesting, I had never heard that before. Do you have a source on that one?

I'm just speculating. Ro was in the Maquis, so I'm guessing one of the other Maquis characters would have been initially her. It could have been Chakotay possibly, but that seems less likely.

I believe R. Star is looking for a source on the "turned down a role on Voyager" part, not what role it was. I've never heard that before either, so I'm curious now.

Exactly.

Agonizer · January 14 2013, 02:04 AM

R. Star wrote:

Tosk wrote:

Agonizer wrote:

I'm just speculating. Ro was in the Maquis, so I'm guessing one of the other Maquis characters would have been initially her. It could have been Chakotay possibly, but that seems less likely.

I believe R. Star is looking for a source on the "turned down a role on Voyager" part, not what role it was. I've never heard that before either, so I'm curious now.

Exactly.

Here's an interview she did in 1994:

http://articles.philly.com/1994-07-1...ds9-kalifornia

"There was a lot of talk of my going onto 'Voyager,' but I'm not ready to commit to that any more than I was ready to commit to 'DS9' or any other series," Forbes said by phone from her Los Angeles home.

R. Star · January 14 2013, 03:02 AM

Agonizer wrote:

R. Star wrote:

Tosk wrote:

I believe R. Star is looking for a source on the "turned down a role on Voyager" part, not what role it was. I've never heard that before either, so I'm curious now.

Exactly.

Here's an interview she did in 1994:

http://articles.philly.com/1994-07-1...ds9-kalifornia

"There was a lot of talk of my going onto 'Voyager,' but I'm not ready to commit to that any more than I was ready to commit to 'DS9' or any other series," Forbes said by phone from her Los Angeles home.

Thank you. That's interesting. Subbing Ro for Chakotay would've been.... interesting to say the least. I can't believe this never occurred to me before when I had been pining fer a DS9 appearance by her for years.

Tosk · January 14 2013, 03:21 AM

Thanks for the link, Agonizer. Can't believe I'd never come across that before. I guess everyone focuses on her turning down DS9.

Reading it though, one does wonder if there was not a straight substitution this time. Maybe they just reached out to her and when she said no they continued to create characters. None of the VOY crew may actually be a "we can't get Ro" creation.

R. Star · January 14 2013, 04:08 AM

Well seems to me having Ro around would be an authoritative Maquis figure that might undermine Chakotay a bit. To say nothing of I'd love to see Ro tell Janeway how stupid she's being when she spouts off her holier than thou Starfleet dogma.

Agonizer · January 14 2013, 05:43 AM

R. Star wrote:

Well seems to me having Ro around would be an authoritative Maquis figure that might undermine Chakotay a bit. To say nothing of I'd love to see Ro tell Janeway how stupid she's being when she spouts off her holier than thou Starfleet dogma.

Unfortunately, she would have been written to fall in line just like the others.

DigificWriter · January 14 2013, 05:02 PM

As much as I love Ro, DS9 would not have worked with her in Major Kira's role, and I don't think it would've taken the producers long to realize that regardless of their original intentions. Sisko's role as the Emissary is the 'narrative foundation' for the entire series and you therefore need a deeply religious character to play off of him, and Ro could not have been that character. You also need a 'native' character (someone whose only emotional ties are to Bajor) for the show's premise as 'a Wild West frontier town in space' to work and Ro doesn't fit the bill there either.

December 25 2012, 01:10 AM	#61
JirinPanthosa Captain	Re: Ro Laren Ro wearing an earring doesn't make her religious. Several atheists whose family are Christian celebrate Christmas. When it comes to ritual, culture and religion are heavily intertwined. Seeing that contradiction would have made Ro wonderful in DS9, but after seeing what Kira became, I'm glad we had Kira.

December 26 2012, 01:10 AM	#62
DalekJim Fleet Captain Location: Great Britain	Re: Ro Laren Ro Laren is possibly my fave TNG character after Picard but there'd be no need for her in DS9 if we also had Kira. And I wouldn't lose Kira for anything. __________________ The Paradox Machine - My blog "Four things cannot be hidden - love, smoke, a pillar of fire and a man striding across the open bled." - Dune Messiah by Frank Herbert

December 27 2012, 08:57 AM	#63
Agonizer Ensign	Re: Ro Laren She also turned down a role on Voyager. I'm not for sure, but I would think B'Elanna replaced Ro.

January 13 2013, 06:25 AM	#65
JediKnightButler Captain Location: Indianapolis, Indiana	Re: Ro Laren I liked her character arc and her TNG "swan song" in "Preemptive Strike" but, after watching DS9, was disappointed that she didn't turn up as part of the Maquis at some point, which would've made some interesting conflicts between Kira and her and Sisko and her (I'm sure that Starfleet would have been hunting her given her betrayal in PS). It would be sad to think that she perished along with the rest of the Maquis when the Dominion came into the AQ on the side of Cardassia. Come to think of it, they never really explained (at least not on DS9, maybe they touched on it on VOY) what happened to the surviving Maqis. Were they all jailed, were they pardoned for their crimes and repatriated as Federation citizens and given new homes? When the Dominion/Cardassians wiped out the Maquis colonies it was basically a unilateral end to the Cardassian-Federation treaty that lead to the creation of the DMZ and the colonies, so their whole cause had been rendered moot. Sort of depressing when you think about it.......... __________________ Do or do not. There is no try.

January 14 2013, 03:21 AM	#72
Tosk Rear Admiral Location: On the run.	Re: Ro Laren Thanks for the link, Agonizer. Can't believe I'd never come across that before. I guess everyone focuses on her turning down DS9. Reading it though, one does wonder if there was not a straight substitution this time. Maybe they just reached out to her and when she said no they continued to create characters. None of the VOY crew may actually be a "we can't get Ro" creation.

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January 14 2013, 04:08 AM	#73
R. Star Commodore Location: Terra 3	Re: Ro Laren Well seems to me having Ro around would be an authoritative Maquis figure that might undermine Chakotay a bit. To say nothing of I'd love to see Ro tell Janeway how stupid she's being when she spouts off her holier than thou Starfleet dogma. __________________ "I was never a Star Trek fan." J.J. Abrams

January 14 2013, 05:02 PM	#75
DigificWriter Rear Admiral Location: West Haven, UT, USA	Re: Ro Laren As much as I love Ro, DS9 would not have worked with her in Major Kira's role, and I don't think it would've taken the producers long to realize that regardless of their original intentions. Sisko's role as the Emissary is the 'narrative foundation' for the entire series and you therefore need a deeply religious character to play off of him, and Ro could not have been that character. You also need a 'native' character (someone whose only emotional ties are to Bajor) for the show's premise as 'a Wild West frontier town in space' to work and Ro doesn't fit the bill there either. __________________ Starbuck: We're all friendlies. So, let's just... be friendly. "Ze director's cut is ze film you saw in ze theater."