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Old July 18 2014, 04:07 AM   #991
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Re: IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

Heck, we should get to see the 23rd century Dax at some point.
I'd be all for Emory or Audrid to be in the movies for that matter as a love interest for McCoy, as well as a strong and interesting character in her own right.
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Old July 18 2014, 09:41 AM   #992
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as well as a strong and interesting character in her own right.
But she's a woman. I don't think that works with the movies.
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Old July 18 2014, 02:00 PM   #993
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as well as a strong and interesting character in her own right.
But she's a woman. I don't think that works with the movies.
You haven't seen The Amazing Spider-Man 2 or Captain America: The Winter Soldier, then.
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Old July 19 2014, 06:36 PM   #994
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as well as a strong and interesting character in her own right.
But she's a woman. I don't think that works with the movies.
You haven't seen The Amazing Spider-Man 2 or Captain America: The Winter Soldier, then.
Guilty as charged. I didn't like to see a reboot so soon after the one super-hero story I cared about, especially when it was just produced to spite the creative head of the original trilogy.

I'm going to see both movies anyway sooner or later. Anyway, I guess they had strong women even though they're movies? Reminds me of this cartoon:
http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3408#comic
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Old July 19 2014, 06:54 PM   #995
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Gwen Stacy is a fabulously strong character in both Amazing Spider-Man movies, a hero in her own right (to the point that I wish they hadn't been so faithful to the comics in the way her story ultimately resolved). And The Winter Soldier should really have been called Captain America and Black Widow: The Winter Soldier, because they were pretty much equal partners.
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Old July 19 2014, 07:54 PM   #996
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The new Trek movie really needs more strong female representation. Carol had a few moments where she did shine in the last movie, but overall I didn't warm up to her. I like Uhura, and I'm intrigued by her relationship with Spock, but I'd like to see her shine more than just as a girlfriend. I'd really like to see some strong characterizations of lead females like Chapel and Rand added to the cast - and, yeah, one of the female Dax of the era, Emory or Audrid. Probably asking too much from just a movie, when there's not enough time to really explore the characters. I wish we could get a tie in tv show to complement the movie, such as a space station setting or something, with little cross overs into the movies. The Enterprise crew is, as it always was, too human. A Trill would help bring a little alien diversity to the mix as well as adding a much needed female character.
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Old July 19 2014, 08:10 PM   #997
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They'll stick to the original TOS characters and won't add a Trill simply to not offend some 'fans'.

Surely Dax will still be around when the movie trilogy concludes and we get the relaunch novel series.

Or the comics carry on the story. Any chance we could meet Captain Tiberia Kirk again? There's a setup that was underused.
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Old July 19 2014, 08:35 PM   #998
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Is the reboot movie series limited to just a trilogy? I thought the series was open ended. I hope the next one isn't the last of that series. I'd be interested in seeing how the novels could explore and expand on the reboot universe though.
I do have this weird fascination with wanting to see the 23rd century Dax in the reboot. Dax, with Chapel as my second choice, would be a good love interest for McCoy, who deserves more story and characters to interact with. All the action focuses on Kirk/Spock/Uhura and Urban's McCoy has been excellent but underused.
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Old July 19 2014, 08:43 PM   #999
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Is the reboot movie series limited to just a trilogy? I thought the series was open ended. I hope the next one isn't the last of that series. I'd be interested in seeing how the novels could explore and expand on the reboot universe though.
I do have this weird fascination with wanting to see the 23rd century Dax in the reboot. Dax, with Chapel as my second choice, would be a good love interest for McCoy, who deserves more story and characters to interact with. All the action focuses on Kirk/Spock/Uhura and Urban's McCoy has been excellent but underused.
The actors and producers signed a 3 movie deal back in 2007(8?)

There was one interview posted online with Chris Pine after ID hit theatres, saying he had signed for two more movies - although it's quite possible it was just an old interview from 2009 reposted.
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Old July 19 2014, 09:23 PM   #1000
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The new Trek movie really needs more strong female representation.
That's why I wish they'd done a wholesale reboot instead of an alternate timeline. Then characters could've had their gender or ethnicity changed.

What's interesting is that TOS started out with two female regulars. In "The Cage," it was Number One and Colt; and in the early first season, Rand was the female lead and Uhura was semi-regular. Rand was higher in the credits even than Scott and Sulu, about on a par with McCoy. So things could've gone differently.



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Is the reboot movie series limited to just a trilogy? I thought the series was open ended. I hope the next one isn't the last of that series.
We don't know. Hollywood these days seems to default to trilogies, but there's no reason why it would have to end there. Just because a trilogy is what they have planned to date doesn't mean it's limited to that. It just means that's as far as they've planned. What happens after that, I suppose, depends on how the parties involved feel about their future plans. I'm sure Paramount will want to keep making Trek movies -- they've been doing it for 35 years, why stop now? -- but there are various ways that could go. Maybe Abrams and/or Orci would do more; maybe someone else would take over the Abramsverse; maybe they'd start over with a new series. Who knows?

You know, it just occurred to me: Every studio these days seems to be trying to copy Marvel's multi-series shared universe. Fox is developing more X-Men spinoffs and the Fantastic Four (maybe in the same universe), Sony is trying to stretch the Spider-Man franchise into a shared universe, and Universal is developing a coherent shared universe around its classic monsters. Disney's even developing Star Wars into a wider film franchise, with a mix of "Episode" films and solo-character focus movies. I'd be amazed if Paramount were blind to the potential of Star Trek to support a multi-series franchise, since it's already been one on TV. Maybe we could see a master plan to reboot TNG, DS9, and VGR all together.
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Old July 19 2014, 11:43 PM   #1001
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Is the reboot movie series limited to just a trilogy? I thought the series was open ended. I hope the next one isn't the last of that series. I'd be interested in seeing how the novels could explore and expand on the reboot universe though.
I do have this weird fascination with wanting to see the 23rd century Dax in the reboot. Dax, with Chapel as my second choice, would be a good love interest for McCoy, who deserves more story and characters to interact with. All the action focuses on Kirk/Spock/Uhura and Urban's McCoy has been excellent but underused.
The actors and producers signed a 3 movie deal back in 2007(8?)

There was one interview posted online with Chris Pine after ID hit theatres, saying he had signed for two more movies - although it's quite possible it was just an old interview from 2009 reposted.
I think overall that is the most recent word from Pine and any of his co-stars, but I'm fairly certain that no one has ever said anything about no extensions allowed or anything like that.

All that said, I don't think Paramount is extremely keen on Star Trek since Star Trek Into Darkness didn't perform meteorically at the box office.
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Old July 20 2014, 02:02 AM   #1002
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Disney is planning to do a new Star Wars movie every year. It would be amazing if we could get a new Trek movie every year! They could do TNG, DS9 and VOY reboots, one new movie every three years. Or keep TOS -Reboot in the mix somewhere too, that would be good too.
There has been talk of a TNG reboot lately, but I hadn't really thought about DS9 and Voyager reboots. I'd rather get the original casts, but if that won't happen, then reboots would be amazing, especially if we were getting the movies so often. The wait for a movie every three years or so is pretty long. Obviously, we want the quality to be good as well as frequent.
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Old July 20 2014, 02:30 AM   #1003
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I don't see Zoe Saldana sticking around past the third movie (between the Avatar and probable Guardians of the Galaxy sequels, plus other projects, she'll just be too busy), and 42-year-old John Cho isn't gonna get away with playing a 23-year-old Hikaru Sulu much longer. With those two recast, you could get probably three more movies at most out of Pine and Company before they caught up with their predecessors' TMP ages.
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Old July 20 2014, 02:48 AM   #1004
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Sulu would be aging though. I don't think a Sulu recast would stop them from making a fourth movie if the next movie makes money and the rest of the cast and tptb want to continue.

Saladana has had a much bigger role, and recasting her would be a much bigger deal. But perhaps they'd write her out or reduce her role so that Saldana could do just a small appearance. There are other female characters like Chapel and Rand, or other characters like one of the Dax, who could fill that void. I'd really miss Saldana's Uhura though, the Spock/Uhura relationship is one of the most intriguing elements of the new movies, and I'm really curious to see that develop. I was imagining the other day that the reboot series could end with a Spock/Uhura wedding.
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Old July 20 2014, 03:04 AM   #1005
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Let's remember that all these roles have been recast for these movies. No reason they couldn't be recast again.
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