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Old July 11 2014, 09:02 PM   #976
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Re: IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

Trek operates under comic book universe rules - see every alternate timeline we ever saw for proof. The butterfly effect is one of many handwaves used so writers can keep or change whatever they think would be cool.
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Old July 12 2014, 02:34 AM   #977
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It should also be noted that Chekov in Abrams' Trek is the only member of the big seven who's actually a different person. This Chekov was born four years before his prime counterpart, though he probably has the same parents and a similar upbringing
Well, that's one theory. It's the one I favor myself, but there is an alternative possibility: That Chekov lied or misspoke for some reason when he said he was 22 in "Who Mourns for Adonais." Maybe he had some reason to pretend he was younger. Maybe he was using the calendar of some other planet with longer years, although that's very unlikely given his Russia fixation. Maybe it's like Enterprise: The First Adventure's weirdly immature version of Janice Rand, and he spent several years in relativistic travel on a sublight ship and is four years below his calendar age due to time dilation.


(this could also explain how Anton Yelchin can get away with not looking anything like Walter Koenig).
Few of the actors look any more like their predecessors than he does; Zachary Quinto is the only one who has a really strong likeness. Robin Curtis doesn't look much like Kirstie Alley either.
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Old July 12 2014, 10:12 AM   #978
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Chekov's age was a misstep just to shoe-horn in the character from the word go. I would have preferred them to use Chapel and/or Rand to pad out the women to start and bring Chekov in later. The Batman movies did this with Robin. It's fine.

Anyway, this months issue is one of my favourites to date. Characterisations and artwork were spot on and the story was fun. If those goes on for 6 issues it should be a fun ride.
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Old July 14 2014, 06:42 PM   #979
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Liked this quite a bit. A pretty spot-on Q, a great scene with Picard and the best art on the ongoing series to date. However, was it just me or was the Abrams crew shown to be particularly... well, dumb. Are we to believe that the person who coded that scenario and the person who beat that scenario wouldn't recognize it? And that Uhura decided to spot translate the name of the vessel for no discernible reason that would help out in the situation? It just felt silly and made everyone look inept.

I will admit that I'm not really sure why Picard was so hesitant to hear about an alternate timeline in the past. It doesn't jibe with what we've seen of how these situations are dealt with on any of the series. Q's comment about Khan was pretty funny, too.
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Old July 15 2014, 09:50 PM   #980
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I will admit that I'm not really sure why Picard was so hesitant to hear about an alternate timeline in the past. It doesn't jibe with what we've seen of how these situations are dealt with on any of the series. Q's comment about Khan was pretty funny, too.
Y'know that makes me wonder. The Federation and Starfleet have the Prime Directive and the Temporal Prime Directive. Do either of those extend to alternate quantum realities?
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Old July 16 2014, 01:41 AM   #981
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Are we to believe that the person who coded that scenario and the person who beat that scenario wouldn't recognize it? And that Uhura decided to spot translate the name of the vessel for no discernible reason that would help out in the situation? It just felt silly and made everyone look inept.
1) It's been a couple of years
2) They're nowhere near the Neutral Zone
3) Events were going too damn fast
4) Kirk was on the verge of figuring it out, but events overtook him
5) Uhura was the only one not immediately engaged in the battle, giving her just enough time and room to make the connection. Note she wasn't using the console to translate - she's just that damn good at languages.
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Old July 16 2014, 02:08 AM   #982
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I will admit that I'm not really sure why Picard was so hesitant to hear about an alternate timeline in the past. It doesn't jibe with what we've seen of how these situations are dealt with on any of the series. Q's comment about Khan was pretty funny, too.
Y'know that makes me wonder. The Federation and Starfleet have the Prime Directive and the Temporal Prime Directive. Do either of those extend to alternate quantum realities?
I'm pretty sure Sisko made a reference to not wanting to become involved with the stuff in the MU because it would violate the Prime Directive.
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Old July 16 2014, 07:16 PM   #983
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Are we to believe that the person who coded that scenario and the person who beat that scenario wouldn't recognize it? And that Uhura decided to spot translate the name of the vessel for no discernible reason that would help out in the situation? It just felt silly and made everyone look inept.
1) It's been a couple of years
2) They're nowhere near the Neutral Zone
3) Events were going too damn fast
4) Kirk was on the verge of figuring it out, but events overtook him
5) Uhura was the only one not immediately engaged in the battle, giving her just enough time and room to make the connection. Note she wasn't using the console to translate - she's just that damn good at languages.
Sure, it can be rationalized away. And I certainly get that's how it's supposed to come off. But as a sequence, I felt like something exceedingly obvious was being portrayed as some serious mystery. It pulled me out of the story and I felt like characters who should be smarter were dumb for the sake of a rushed, silly sequence.

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I will admit that I'm not really sure why Picard was so hesitant to hear about an alternate timeline in the past. It doesn't jibe with what we've seen of how these situations are dealt with on any of the series. Q's comment about Khan was pretty funny, too.
Y'know that makes me wonder. The Federation and Starfleet have the Prime Directive and the Temporal Prime Directive. Do either of those extend to alternate quantum realities?
I'm pretty sure Sisko made a reference to not wanting to become involved with the stuff in the MU because it would violate the Prime Directive.
That's true. it's just that Picard's objections are a lot stronger than they were in similar situations in the series. I don't mind it, it was a nice touch, but just not necessarily in line with what we know. (Maybe DTI is cracking down post Hobus?)
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Old July 16 2014, 11:35 PM   #984
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Maybe Picard just wasn't in the mood to be dealing with Q and wanted him to shut up?
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Old July 17 2014, 12:38 AM   #985
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The way the scene read to me was that Q was trying to get Picard interested in getting involved in the events of that timeline, and Picard figured it was a good idea to nip that in the bud before Q dragged the Enterprise off on some highly dangerous spacetime escapade.
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Old July 17 2014, 01:41 AM   #986
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Maybe Picard just wasn't in the mood to be dealing with Q and wanted him to shut up?
Is Picard ever in the mood to be dealing with Q?

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The way the scene read to me was that Q was trying to get Picard interested in getting involved in the events of that timeline, and Picard figured it was a good idea to nip that in the bud before Q dragged the Enterprise off on some highly dangerous spacetime escapade.
And robbed both Q and us of a classic "My Enterprise (Kirk's) is bigger than yours" moment. Ah, cest la vie...
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Old July 17 2014, 03:29 AM   #987
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October (part 4) solicit's up: http://trekmovie.com/2014/07/16/trek...-october-2014/

Odo's on both the main & photo covers, but who's the Cardassian meant to be? (if it's Dukat, he's way off model. He looks familiar, but not him...)

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Picard's objections are a lot stronger than they were in similar situations in the series. I don't mind it, it was a nice touch, but just not necessarily in line with what we know. (Maybe DTI is cracking down post Hobus?)
This is just hours after the events of ST:Countdown. Not that much time to start a crackdown
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Old July 17 2014, 03:34 AM   #988
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Odo's on both the main & photo covers, but who's the Cardassian meant to be? (if it's Dukat, he's way off model. He looks familiar, but not him...)
I think it is Dukat. Q is even more off-model.
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Old July 17 2014, 03:54 AM   #989
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Is that a Klingon bird of prey flying alongside two Jem'hadar battle cruisers?
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Old July 17 2014, 02:50 PM   #990
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Is that a Klingon bird of prey flying alongside two Jem'hadar battle cruisers?
Yes, the design is unmistakeable.

BTW, I wonder whether we get to see Alternate Reality Dax at some point.
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