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Old May 22 2014, 02:37 PM   #841
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Do people think it's just Q and the Deep Space Nine cast guesting in The Q Gambit or might they dip into the other series?
Well, it is six issues long and we only know about the first two. I'll be surprised if we don't see Abramsverse TNG characters before this is done.
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Old May 24 2014, 03:34 AM   #842
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It seems kind of weird to me that they would do DS9 before TNG.
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Old May 24 2014, 03:51 AM   #843
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It seems kind of weird to me that they would do DS9 before TNG.
Unless Orci has plans for the TNG characters in the next movie, then DS9, being the next most popular Trek series would be the go to for the comics.

I'm only speculating, half-jokingly at that.
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Old May 24 2014, 06:09 AM   #844
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The idea that Chekov's unborn older brother from another timeline wound up in the same spot as Chekov Prime on the Enterprise is possibly the most fanwanky thing I have ever heard.
That's no way to speak about Piotr. ("Day of the Dove.")
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Old May 24 2014, 03:44 PM   #845
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It seems kind of weird to me that they would do DS9 before TNG.
Actually, it makes sense-- save the popular TNG characters for the grand finale.
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Old May 24 2014, 05:41 PM   #846
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Re: IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

On a different subject, "Lost Apollo, Part 1" should be coming out next Wednesday (I can't find accurate release dates for the ongoing series anymore). Now the blurb goes,
After the events of Star Trek Into Darkness, Captain James T. Kirk and the crew of the USS Enterprise have embarked on their five-year mission into uncharted space... only to encounter a deadly new alien species unlike anything the Federation has met before! Don't miss this all-new adventure overseen by Star Trek writer/producer Roberto Orci!
I'm guessing that if they say "species", then the Enterprise will encounter more Beings besides Apollo in this version of "Who Mourns for Adonais?"
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Old May 24 2014, 06:17 PM   #847
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The idea that a character can be different ages depending on time dilation factors (esp. if they live much of their lives on board a starship) has been used before in Trek...once with Janice Rand, I think.
In Enterprise: The First Adventure, yes, but I never bought the idea that Rand was biologically only 16 at the time of that book, which would've made her only 17-18 at the time she was in the show.
Your math is bad. Enterprise: TFA takes place five years before "The Deadly Years"; Kirk is said to be twenty-nine when he takes command in the novel. That would mean that Rand would be biologically about twenty at the time of the series.

Yes, yes, I know, I know. You're trying to make E:TFA work within the Okudachron timeline and what we know about Kirk's five-year command. Sometimes, maybe it's best to not try and force something to fit something it's not meant to fit with.

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Which is impossible, since Grace Lee Whitney was twice that age at the time, and since "Charlie X" made it quite clear that Rand was an unattainable older woman to the 17-year-old Charlie. I really don't know what Vonda McIntyre was thinking when she put that in the book.
That specific element? I have no idea.

Setting the book roughly five years before the television series? Perhaps she was drawing on the idea in fandom that Kirk commanded two five-year missions prior to his promotion to Rear Admiral.
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Old May 24 2014, 08:33 PM   #848
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No, McIntyre's timing for E:TFA is most likely based on Kirk's bio in The Making of Star Trek, which says he's 34 years old and has commanded the ship for over four years (which would mean he'd been in command for two years before the first season, since TMoST was written in season 2 and he was 34 as of "The Deadly Years').
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Old May 25 2014, 07:25 AM   #849
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Who says Chekov was being honest? Just because a character says something, doesn't necessarily make it irrefutable fact. Perhaps he was getting techy about his approaching 30th,
Well, in TOS Chekov was intended to be the "young guy" of the group, the inexperienced one who all this is new for. Were he really approaching 30 he'd be in the same basic age range as Sulu and Uhura, and therefore not very young or inexperienced. And I'm fairly certain the intent when Adonais was written and filmed was that he was giving his actual age.

To be honest, Chekov's presence is one of the worse examples of the "Nero's presence changed the timeline" handwave excuse's we get in the Abramsverse. There's no real reason Nero showing up and destroying the Kelvin should have motivated Chekov's parents to have a child sooner but there we are.
It could be perhaps that Chekov Prime's mother was serving aboard the Kelvin as a crew member, but was killed in Nero's attack, whereas she wasn't in the Prime Universe. Chekov's father remarried and had nuChekov with a different woman, but decided to name this son Pavel as well - perhaps the name of a deceased relative, so the same name was selected? I tend to think of nuChekov as not the same person as the Prime version, unlike the other characters ...
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Old May 25 2014, 01:04 PM   #850
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I think it'd be small-universe syndrome to have every change be so directly linked to the Kelvin's destruction. Like I said, events have ripple effects that can propagate far beyond any obvious connection. If the Kelvin's destruction led to an alteration in Starfleet's policies and practices -- say, prompted more shipbulding and a turn more toward defense and away from exploration, as seems to be the case -- then that could affect hundreds of thousands of people's lives, changing what jobs they were assigned to and where, and the consequences of that would spread widely. Even if there's some kind of cosmic probability force driving people toward the same nexus points in their lives, so that they tend to end up meeting the same people in the same assignments, it could still happen in a different way at a different time -- as we see with the entire c. 2267-era Prime-Universe Enterprise command crew already being in place nine years early.
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Old May 25 2014, 01:15 PM   #851
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It would be cool if one of the timeline changes was that Jean-luc had dreads.
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Old May 25 2014, 04:03 PM   #852
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It would be cool if one of the timeline changes was that Jean-luc had dreads.
I won't settle for anything less than the Full Centauri.

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Old May 27 2014, 12:32 AM   #853
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I remember Lindelof (I believe) suggesting that the third Abramsverse Star Trek film would deal with a Federation-Klingon war, the same war that was provoked in the events of Into Darkness. However, the comics have already dealt with that. Do ya'll think they will disregard the events of the comics and continue with that premise? Or "count" the comics, leave the war done with, and make the more exploratory movie that many fans called for? Especially now that Lindelof is gone.

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Old May 27 2014, 03:08 AM   #854
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I remember Lindelof (I believe) suggesting that the third Abramsverse Star Trek film would deal with a Federation-Klingon war, the same war that was provoked in the events of Into Darkness. However, the comics have already dealt with that. Do ya'll think they will disregard the events of the comics and continue with that premise? Or "count" the comics, leave the war done with, and make the more exploratory movie that many fans called for? Especially now that Lindelof is gone.

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If there were any serious plans on doing the war in the next movie, Orci wouldn't have allowed the comics to have touched it. Simple as that. So whatever else Trek XIII is about, it won't be war between the Federation and the Klingons.
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Old May 28 2014, 04:28 AM   #855
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Woah. So "Lost Apollo, Part 1" apparently isn't about first contact with the Beings but another lost Earth ship: this time from a fictitious version of the real-life Apollo program.

http://www.startrek.com/article/firs...-apollo-part-1

I like how it's an original story, but where would the "lost Apollo" be in the prime reality?

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