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Old April 6 2014, 12:43 AM   #781
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At least the klingons look more like klingons than the caitians look like caitians
They were scripted as Caitians but, in interviews, the actresses described being put in all manner of appliances that weren't used, including felinoid ears. So just 'cos the script says they're Caitians doesn't mean they are.

Similarly, the Andorian thrall in James Blish's novelization of "Gamesters of Triskelion" is a red-skinned alien with a flap of flesh for a nasal covering (perhaps originally scripted that way?), and Thelin the Andorian of "Yesteryear" is scripted as blue, not grey.

Billy Van Zandt's species was described in publicity materials as "a Rhaandarite", but originally scripted as a "high-domed Vegan", and the actor didn't know of the Rhaaandarite term being coined until the commercial material started coming out for the film's premiere. During filming, he was a Vegan and a "Bumphead".
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Old April 6 2014, 01:11 AM   #782
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the Gorn Hegemony native to Milkyway?
Is there canonical evidence that they are native to the Milky Way?
Not canonically http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Gorn but the Gorn Hegemony is definitely not extragalactic as the "Gorn" in the video game are.
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Old April 6 2014, 01:20 AM   #783
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Is there canonical evidence that they are native to the Milky Way?
The burden of proof generally lies with the extraordinary claim, not the ordinary one. By analogy, a show set on present-day Earth doesn't have to prove that its characters are native to Earth. It's the opposite claim that demands proof.
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Old April 6 2014, 09:16 PM   #784
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The Klingon in STID could have been any other race, he does't even remotely look Klingon!
And Koloth of TOS does? Looks more like the Squire of Gothos to me!

How about the forehead on Colonel Worf? (ST VI)

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Not canonically http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Gorn but the Gorn Hegemony is definitely not extragalactic as the "Gorn" in the video game are.
But if someone comes along and says, in an episode or movie, that the Gorn we met in "Arena" had once entered the Milky Way and settled here, is there anything to say that they couldn't have done so?

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The burden of proof generally lies with the extraordinary claim, not the ordinary one. By analogy, a show set on present-day Earth doesn't have to prove that its characters are native to Earth. It's the opposite claim that demands proof.
I wasn't asking for proof, I was simply curious if any canonical evidence precluded the Gorn of TOS from being of extragalactic origin?
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Old April 7 2014, 08:51 PM   #785
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And Koloth of TOS does? Looks more like the Squire of Gothos to me!

How about the forehead on Colonel Worf? (ST VI)

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Not canonically http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Gorn but the Gorn Hegemony is definitely not extragalactic as the "Gorn" in the video game are.
But if someone comes along and says, in an episode or movie, that the Gorn we met in "Arena" had once entered the Milky Way and settled here, is there anything to say that they couldn't have done so?
Yes, I suppose so. Although if you adhere to the depiction of the Gorn in the Pocket novels, an extragalactic origin would just be pointless for them. The Gorn species went from stone age to warp age on Gornar just as any other contemporary species did as far as the historical record can tell. Plus, Gorn mythology has nothing that could be linked to an extragalactic migration.
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Old April 7 2014, 09:19 PM   #786
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Although if you adhere to the depiction of the Gorn in the Pocket novels...
Why would they do that?

The Gorn could have suffered the same type of societal fracture that the Vulcans and Romulans did in the past. Either one found there way from the Milky Way or to it.
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Old April 8 2014, 02:07 AM   #787
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Although if you adhere to the depiction of the Gorn in the Pocket novels...
Why would they do that?
Well I can't speak to potential storytelling opportunities, but the Gorn in the novels are just an ordinary Alpha/Beta Quadrant reptilian spacefaring species.
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Old April 23 2014, 03:23 AM   #788
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The preview for issue #32 of IDW's ongoing comic series, "I, Enterprise Part 2", showed up earlier today on the official Star Trek website along with a 7 page preview and a repeat of the blurb.

http://www.startrek.com/article/i-enterprise-concludes

IDW Publishing’s Star Trek #32, due out on Wednesday, will serve as the concluding chapter of "I, Enterprise." The story finds the flagship of the fleet a sentient entity with a mind of its own... and it doesn't take kindly to the biological "invaders" within its hull. It’s up to Kirk, Spock and the rest of the crew to fight an enemy upon which their very survival depends.
I don't know how, but I'm actually psyched for an Abramsverse comic after seeing the preview!
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Old April 23 2014, 04:02 AM   #789
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So this is how 0718 was "born"?
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Old April 23 2014, 08:47 AM   #790
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Star Trek #32 I, Enterprise Part 2 of 2 review.



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After a rather fantastic introduction to 0718 (see Issue #31) – a living, breathing Starship Enterprise brought to life by a rogue computer program brought on board after a visit to a pure black sphere floating silently in space – we quickly are brought to the concluding part of this story given to us by the current Star Trek scribe Mike Johnson (with overseer Roberto Orci still circling above). Though we’re given a fairly good piece due to elements I’m guessing are beyond Mike Johnson’s control, it’s not quite excellent.

The story is good, if not a bit Trek fan flammable as we have here a civilisation that has transcended they frailties of the biological form a million years back to become mere one constantly connected form of energy. It is currently in the process of assisting the Enterprise to remove the infestation (the humans) from the ship whilst at the same time assimilating the Ent...
Full article - http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2014/0...r-trek-32.html
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Old April 26 2014, 03:53 AM   #791
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I picked up Part 2 of IDW's "I, Enterprise", about Crewman 0718, on Thursday, and thoroughly enjoyed it. We've certainly seen this kind of story before in Trek: the Ilia Probe in TMP; the Enterprise-D's computer achieving sentience in "Emergence" (TNG); the Borg Drone they called One, who came from the EMH's mobile emitter, Seven's nanoprobes and Mulcahey's DNA (VOY's "Drone"); Morgan Primus's most recent guise in "New Frontier" novels and comics; and the holographic avatar of a ship's computer in "Titan: Synthesis", fashioned after Minuet.

But this story works well. I'm thrilled we got to know more about 0718. I hadn't really expected a backstory to unfold already, and thought Bad Robot may have done a little more with him in the next movie first.
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Old April 26 2014, 04:00 AM   #792
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0718 was one of my favorite parts of Star Trek Into Darkness. I actually like an IDW comic for once because of him although 0718's origin story could have taken more issues.

So is 0718 supposed to be a cybernetically-enhanced artificial human, a newly-created artificial member of the machine planet's creators, or a unique individual? Or something else? Cause on first pages we see him completely naked but he doesn't seem to have any male genitalia as most Federation humanoids in theory have.
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Old April 26 2014, 04:13 AM   #793
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^The excerpt said the body was created from the ship's transplant-tissue stores, which would make him an android in the original sense of the word, a created biological humanoid like a Blade Runner replicant or Frankenstein's Monster -- though I'd assume the brain is cybernetic. As for the anatomical depiction, that could be artistic license; it wouldn't be the first time that cartoonists rendering a naked body chose to omit the genitalia.
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Cause on first pages we see him completely naked but he doesn't seem to have any male genitalia
"It's very cold in space..."
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Old April 26 2014, 10:44 PM   #795
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I wonder the machine planet designed him with anything like vision for more spectra than the visible or great strength.
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