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Old August 28 2013, 10:53 PM   #466
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Re: IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

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while I'm a fan of being more inclusive, I always thought Pon Farr was a male thing.
While we saw T'Pol go through it canonically in ENT, I recall fan surprise when Saavik underwent pon farr in the DC Comics post-ST II series' two-parter, "The Origin of Saavik!", which led into the ST III adaptation.
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Old August 28 2013, 11:08 PM   #467
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If you think about it, the fan notion that pon farr is male-only is kind of an oddity, since that's never suggested by the dialogue in "Amok Time." Spock says it's something Vulcans go through, not Vulcan men. "How do Vulcans choose their mates?" "It strips our minds from us." And particularly "...at the proper time, we would both be drawn to Koon-ut-kal-if-fee." The only thing he says that even hints at it being male-only is "we are driven by forces we cannot control to return home and take a wife."

Well, on second thought, I guess the idea comes from the fact that T'Pring wasn't going through the blood fever while Spock was. But then, T'Pring had presumably had Stonn's "help" to ease her symptoms. Or maybe she was just that cold.
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Old August 29 2013, 02:52 AM   #468
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Were they the same age?
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Old August 29 2013, 02:58 AM   #469
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^Yes. "By our parents' arrangement. A ceremony while we were but seven years of age."
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Old August 29 2013, 03:01 AM   #470
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Were they the same age?
Presumably they'd have to be in order for their ponn farr cycles to sync up. I'm assuming the cycle is synced up between couples, seems logical. Although in the real world, Arlene Martel is in fact three years younger than Nimoy.
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Old August 29 2013, 03:08 AM   #471
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I feel like there's at least one novel that says pon farr is experienced by males and bonded females, though ENT probably supersedes that.
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Old August 29 2013, 03:23 AM   #472
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^Yes. "By our parents' arrangement. A ceremony while we were but seven years of age."
Ok, I couldn't remember if they said anything that specific about T'Pring.
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Old August 29 2013, 04:09 AM   #473
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T'Pring had presumably had Stonn's "help" to ease her symptoms. Or maybe she was just that cold.
"Stonn cold", if you will.
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Old August 29 2013, 07:50 AM   #474
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I don't think it is necessary for them to be of the same age for the pon farr to link up. Possibly, their cycles would sync up by itself, similar to girls in a dorm having their cycles converge to the same time.

And if that doesn't work, it could possibly be induced via mindmeld, similar to B'Elanna's experience with Vorik.
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Old August 29 2013, 08:51 AM   #475
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Ah thanks. A lot of Enterprise episodes are a blur. Unless they have Andorians in!
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Old August 29 2013, 10:12 AM   #476
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I think that the problem lies in STIII.

SAAVIK: Pon farr. Vulcan males must endure it every seven years of their adult life.
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Old August 29 2013, 11:36 AM   #477
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Hi Christopher,

What's your opinion on the Pon Farr arc in Ongoing, specifically how it's resolved?
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Old August 29 2013, 03:26 PM   #478
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^Haven't read it yet.
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Old August 29 2013, 05:53 PM   #479
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But then, T'Pring had presumably had Stonn's "help" to ease her symptoms. Or maybe she was just that cold.
Oh yes, indeed. And I can't blame him, in his place I would have "helped" her as well.
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Old August 30 2013, 03:36 PM   #480
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I guess she really does have a heart of Stonn after all...

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I think that the problem lies in STIII.

SAAVIK: Pon farr. Vulcan males must endure it every seven years of their adult life.
Then again, since Saavik is half Romulan, maybe she doesn't endure pon farr and thus assumes that no other Vulcan woman would.
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