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Old June 4 2013, 02:18 PM   #316
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Re: IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

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With regards to the first issue of 'After Darkness',

I think it is Mekenna from the Sulu issue
Interesting thought, but I don't know. She wasn't really villainous, just a hotheaded youth in need of life experience.
Just seemed like something a Red Squad person would do, join Section 31 because they like being in the exclusive clubs
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Old June 4 2013, 03:01 PM   #317
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Well, I can't argue with that logic. Still, seems a bit of a jump.
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Old June 4 2013, 03:19 PM   #318
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Well, I can't argue with that logic. Still, seems a bit of a jump.
Just a guess. I am finding that they do seem to pull things from previous issues, so that was my first thought when I saw it was a woman but they didn't show us her face.
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Old June 4 2013, 03:47 PM   #319
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Well, I can't argue with that logic. Still, seems a bit of a jump.
Hey it's a universe where you can get the keys to the flagship of the federation as a failing cadet.
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Old June 4 2013, 04:37 PM   #320
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Just a quick note I reviewed Ongoing #15 here - http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=211918
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Old June 4 2013, 04:50 PM   #321
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^You mean #20, right?
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Old June 4 2013, 06:44 PM   #322
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Well, I can't argue with that logic. Still, seems a bit of a jump.
Hey it's a universe where you can get the keys to the flagship of the federation as a failing cadet.
Failing? When was he failing? He was set to complete his studies a year early. He was just grounded for the whole Kobayashi Maru stunt. If anything, he exceled at the academy. According to some of the material released along side the first film, he was even instructing a combat class.
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Old June 4 2013, 06:53 PM   #323
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Well, I can't argue with that logic. Still, seems a bit of a jump.
Hey it's a universe where you can get the keys to the flagship of the federation as a failing cadet.
Failing? When was he failing? He was set to complete his studies a year early. He was just grounded for the whole Kobayashi Maru stunt. If anything, he exceled at the academy. According to some of the material released along side the first film, he was even instructing a combat class.
On top of this in Into Darkness it is Kirk who figures out where Khan will be next in the meeting, just by looking at some pictures, not bad!
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Old June 4 2013, 07:31 PM   #324
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Well, I can't argue with that logic. Still, seems a bit of a jump.
Just a guess. I am finding that they do seem to pull things from previous issues, so that was my first thought when I saw it was a woman but they didn't show us her face.
I think, thought I'm not sure, that the women is wearing a blue Starfleet shirt. Would Mekenna have ended up on a science or medical track? I'm probably wrong.
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Old June 4 2013, 08:07 PM   #325
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I think, thought I'm not sure, that the women is wearing a blue Starfleet shirt.
To me, it kind of looks like she's wearing an outfit similar to what Admiral Marcus and the crew of the Vengeance were wearing, which is likely the Section 31 uniform in the Abramsverse.
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Old June 4 2013, 09:38 PM   #326
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I think it is Mekenna from the Sulu issue
Interesting thought, but I don't know. She wasn't really villainous, just a hotheaded youth in need of life experience.
Just seemed like something a Red Squad person would do, join Section 31 because they like being in the exclusive clubs
Well they also sold Section 31 as some elite covert groups to Sulu in his Return of the Archons flashback. And considering bother of them were up for the Enterprise assignment they may have tried recruiting her when he apparently turned them down.

Remember Section 31 doesn't advertise themselves as some kind of villainous organization to people they just go on about how awesome they are for the federation and convince people to (surprisingly enough) go along with their shady stuff.

I also still think the JJverse Section 31 is keeping their above the law tendencies to themselves for the most part and are trying to be semi-legitimate and dumping the whole (unsustainable) secret organization thing.

This is why I don't think Marcus only mentioned their existence because he was going to kill Kirk seeing as how his description of the organization doesn't sound like something people would bat an eye at.

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Hey it's a universe where you can get the keys to the flagship of the federation as a failing cadet.
Failing? When was he failing? He was set to complete his studies a year early. He was just grounded for the whole Kobayashi Maru stunt. If anything, he exceled at the academy. According to some of the material released along side the first film, he was even instructing a combat class.
On top of this in Into Darkness it is Kirk who figures out where Khan will be next in the meeting, just by looking at some pictures, not bad!
Actually I think it was more deduction based on Khan as John Harrison mentioned to be a top Starfleet operative engaging in a one man war on Starfleet and his choice of a non critical target to hit not exactly making sense and wondering what he was really up to, plus Spock's mentioning (while he was thinking about this) how peculiar "Harrison's" choice of a non-warp capable ship to escape was which probably further added to Kirk's suspicion that "Harrison" was up to something.
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Old June 5 2013, 02:50 AM   #327
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I think the Section 31 agent at the end of the comic is Number One. That's why we didn't see her face--it would have been recognizable. And it would be in keeping with the Ongoing comics to bring out cannon characters.

Hey, I wonder if they'll make a thing out of the fact that Number One looks a lot like Christine Chapel.
[A possible explanation for why Chapel "took a deep space assignment" was that she was maintaining her Section 31 cover and duties and that she is also Number One.]
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Old June 5 2013, 02:52 AM   #328
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Or it could be Sarah April . . .
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Old June 5 2013, 03:05 AM   #329
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I think the Section 31 agent at the end of the comic is Number One. That's why we didn't see her face--it would have been recognizable.
Why? Nobody else's is. Although some of the guest characters in the comics have looked more or less like their Prime counterparts. (I found it odd that Commissioner Ferris had a new character design in the early pages of the "Galileo Seven" adaptation but then looked just like John Crawford in the rest of it.)

Hey, I wonder if they'll make a thing out of the fact that Number One looks a lot like Christine Chapel.
Again, no reason they should. If they have different-looking actors playing characters who look the same in-universe (Spock Prime recognized young Kirk and Scotty on sight), then by the same token, different characters played by the same actress may not be intended to look alike in-universe. Actor resemblance (or lack thereof) should not be mistaken for character resemblance, unless it's specifically referenced.

Besides, remember that "The Cage" was filmed only 2 years before the series proper but set 13 years before. So Number One would've been about a decade older than Chapel.
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Well, I can't argue with that logic. Still, seems a bit of a jump.
Hey it's a universe where you can get the keys to the flagship of the federation as a failing cadet.
Failing? When was he failing? He was set to complete his studies a year early. He was just grounded for the whole Kobayashi Maru stunt. If anything, he exceled at the academy. According to some of the material released along side the first film, he was even instructing a combat class.
One can spin doctor it anyway one wishes; an excellent cadet with both 0 experience and serious disciplinary problems getting the flagship ahead of seasoned officers is unrealistic.
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