Firefly first-time/rewatch (NO SPOILERS, please)

[lurok]

EP1 - SERENITY
Which is also the title of the post-series feature film. Confusing. In fact, a whole ball of confusion. We're thrown into the middle of a war. Why? Who? Where? Throw us a frakking bone, Whedon. Once that clears, it's Stars Wars/Western/Blade Runner pan-Asian mashup and tbh, there's not much of a plot. More like looong character setups. Can't say enamoured of any of them yet really, though Fillion has potential and Baldwin's character would be 100 times better if played by Ron Perlman.

But these two make me very happy.
I suspect one or both of them has a secret.

Verdict: meh. OK. Curious how it develops. Better get funnier.

[Spock/Uhura Fan]

Neroon wrote:

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Let's see if we can restart THIS thread but with the caution of "No spoilers, please", since that's essentially the original intent. There is always the spoiler coding to mask revealing statements, if it absolutely has to be said. In the meantime, I will edit the title to add the "No spoiler" proviso.

There actually isn't, at least not for me. And I frankly think it doesn't make any sense. Spoiler tags should be usable by anyone with an account here, regardless. This is because, as you and others have pointed out, they are not for the benefit of the person using them, but for everyone else.

So, why I have to be given the "privilege" of using them sometime down the line is beyond me because my use of them wouldn't actually benefit me. They are a kindness used for the benefit of others. I've wondered about this for some time, but I didn't want to say anything to rock the boat about how things are done here. I am sorry if I offend.

No matter, though. I just won't post anything spoilery or that would fit best under spoiler tags.

Thanks for helping with the title.

[Neroon]

I am a bit puzzled about what you're saying, because there is no "privilege" involved. The intent of the discussion in this thread is to avoid spoilers. However, if something a person would like to say is spoilery, there is always the spoiler tag feature that allows posting it without causing problems for others.

If there is anything else you'd like to talk about regarding how the matter, please feel free to PM me.

[Carcazoid]

lurok wrote:

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EP1 - SERENITY
Which is also the title of the post-series feature film. Confusing. In fact, a whole ball of confusion. We're thrown into the middle of a war. Why? Who? Where? Throw us a frakking bone, Whedon. Once that clears, it's Stars Wars/Western/Blade Runner pan-Asian mashup and tbh, there's not much of a plot. More like looong character setups. Can't say enamoured of any of them yet really, though Fillion has potential and Baldwin's character would be 100 times better if played by Ron Perlman.

But these two make me very happy.
I suspect one or both of them has a secret.

Verdict: meh. OK. Curious how it develops. Better get funnier.

I never expect a whole ton of backstory in a pilot. The point was to get the cast together, have a little adventure, and make way for the rest of the series. It probably could have been longer, but people have already "complained" in this thread about the length.

The shots of the war establish where Mal and Zoe were before the ship came along. We meet the others as they board the ship and prepare for their trip to (wherever it was).

I like Adam Baldwin. Ron Perlman, enh.

Fox programming folks thought the pilot moved too slow. Not enough action. So (on Thursday or Friday) they ordered a new script to be delivered the following Monday. Episode 2: The Train Job, first to be aired.

[Spock/Uhura Fan]

Neroon wrote:

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I am a bit puzzled about what you're saying, because there is no "privilege" involved. The intent of the discussion in this thread is to avoid spoilers. However, if something a person would like to say is spoilery, there is always the spoiler tag feature that allows posting it without causing problems for others.

If there is anything else you'd like to talk about regarding how the matter, please feel free to PM me.

I'll PM you to explain because I wasn't saying that posting on the thread was a "privilege," I was specifically talking about having access to spoiler tags since you recommended using them. The last time I tried using the bb coding for spoiler tags they didn't work, and there is no option for spoiler tags in my menu.

Thanks.

[sojourner]

Spock/Uhura Fan wrote:

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I'll PM you to explain because I wasn't saying that posting on the thread was a "privilege," I was specifically talking about having access to spoiler tags since you recommended using them. The last time I tried using the bb coding for spoiler tags they didn't work, and there is no option for spoiler tags in my menu.

Thanks.

When you "go advanced" while creating a post, the spoiler option is the smiley with an x for a mouth on the far right of the row of tools above the text window.

[Spock/Uhura Fan]

^Thanks, but it doesn't work for me. I tried using it again today to see if there's any change, and nope. I've PM'd the mod about it, screencaps included. I believe he/she's working on it. And also, the plain old bb coding should just work for it anyway unless it's somehow disabled. I'm waiting for a response to see what's up. I just figured that using spoilers didn't work because I hadn't earned them yet, or whatever, but it's looking like maybe it's a glitch of sorts.

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So as not to derail things. I thought the Pilot episode was okay. It has a somewhat disorienting start, but after that, it starts to move along nicely.

[Lindley]

Well....

it seems to work fine for me.

And yes, I just type in the BBCode.

[sojourner]

Spock/Uhura Fan wrote:

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^Thanks, but it doesn't work for me..

Have you tried a different computer or browser?

[Spock/Uhura Fan]

Well, since we're doing this in the thread and not via PM...

Lindley wrote:

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Well....

it seems to work fine for me.

And yes, I just type in the BBCode.

That could be because of your settings as a moderator. It doesn't work for me and I tried typing the code and using the smiley. Neither one works. I sent Neroon screencaps that show this.

I think it might be a settings issue because different groups have different settings. Is there any way for you to check?

sojourner wrote:

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Have you tried a different computer or browser?

Don't need to. I tried a different forum that uses vB software as well. Works just fine there as well as other vB forums. The only place it doesn't work is here. Again, I think it might be a settings issue.

[Lindley]

Type something in spoiler code, right here. I was to see what happens.

[Spock/Uhura Fan]

I'll do that, but I already did that with Neroon and sent him/her the pics, but if you want to see what I mean, then I'll post the pics here too and follow along with your request.

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What I sent Neroon:

This Forum (using bbcode):



Another Forum that uses vB software too (bbcode):



This Forum Using The Yellow Smiley:



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And here's what happen's now if I try again using the bbcode:

[spoiler]Nothing happens. See.[/spoiler]

[Vendikarr]

Spock/Uhura Fan wrote:

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Well, since we're doing this in the thread and not via PM...

That could be because of your settings as a moderator. It doesn't work for me and I tried typing the code and using the smiley. Neither one works. I sent Neroon screencaps that show this.

I think it might be a settings issue because different groups have different settings. Is there any way for you to check?

Don't need to. I tried a different forum that uses vB software as well. Works just fine there as well as other vB forums. The only place it doesn't work is here. Again, I think it might be a settings issue.

when typing in spoiler code, it likes to have a small phrase describing the spoiler.

type in:
[ spoiler=About this]
text
[ /spoiler]

Just take out the space between the bracket and the 's'. It has always worked for me, and I am not, nor have I ever been a mod.

[Shawnster]

OK, restating since we're starting over

I thought the Pilot did quite a bit to establish the necessary details of the series. Settlements on numerous worlds hosting colonists with literally nothing more than the clothes on their back (thus explaining the simplistic furniture), a defeated soldier turned smuggler, and the whole Simon/River story which is the real core of Firefly.

I don't know if I was confused by the whole Unification War opening segment. Upon rewatches it fits and makes sense. I don't remember what my initial reaction was, if I was lost or whatnot.

Spoiler about Book's reaction to the killing of the Fed at the end of the episode:



Another thought I had watching the first episode. The Reavers are supposed to be wacked-out crazies living on the edge of sanity. We'll see just how wacked-out pretty soon. The Reaver ship passes Serenity and keeps going wherever they are going. Serenity lands on the moon. Suddenly, the Reaver ship turns around and homes in on Serenity's (nearly) exact location! What are the odds and what kind of equipment would it take to do that? Talk about finding a needle in a haystack. And wacked-out lunatics were able to do it? Really seems one of those too-convenient/because the plot called for it moments.

I liked Patience as a villain or foil. Had the series continued, I'd have liked to revisit her again.

[Shawnster]

Spoiler coding does not work for me, either, apparently. I used the appropriate icon, the coding looked correct, but nothing showed up.