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Old December 26 2012, 02:26 PM   #256
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"Out of Gas" is my favorite episode.
Mine too. It has a kind of poetry to it.
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Old December 30 2012, 12:20 PM   #257
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Just watched the next one.. but I'll wait for lurok

This show is great with rewatches, so much detail to look at. Plus it makes me happy.
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Old December 30 2012, 12:55 PM   #258
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EP 9 - ARIEL



Movie heist 101: If a robbery is described or shown as being perfect/foolproof in pre-planning stage, you can bet your bottom dollar it's all going to go belly up in the execution (see also Gambit, Badda-Bing...). How Jayne seriously thought he was going to get away with double-cross eludes me, but we all know he's not the smartest cookie. A nice action episode, though did throw up a couple of questions: who the hell are those creepy MiBs after River? (no answers please!). And surely that medical chopper-thing was too big to fit in hold? Shades of Voyager's shuttle bay
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Old December 31 2012, 01:51 AM   #259
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This would have made a better movie, but that's to fill in all the insanity with explanations. It does bother me WHY in this huge hospital no one else is in the morgue and no one else is in or using the imaging chamber. It's just conveniently empty and not a tech in sight. But I still enjoyed it!

I think the most telling part is in the end:

JAYNE: What're you gonna tell the others?

MAL: About what?

JAYNE: About why I'm dead.

MAL:I hadn't thought about it.

JAYNE: Make something up. Don't tell 'em
what I did.

Mal stares at him for a bit and then closes the outer door. I think Jayne's remorse and that he actually cares what people think of him confirmed for him whatever suspicion of good he had about the man. Though it does boggle the mind a bit as they could have all ended up dead thanks to his betrayal.
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Old December 31 2012, 03:24 AM   #260
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Old December 31 2012, 06:11 AM   #261
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This would have made a better movie, but that's to fill in all the insanity with explanations. It does bother me WHY in this huge hospital no one else is in the morgue and no one else is in or using the imaging chamber. It's just conveniently empty and not a tech in sight. But I still enjoyed it!
I actually think the explanation was in the episode (although it was glossed over): our crew arrived during shift change in the middle of the night. . . during those few minutes, no one would be in the morgue, and because it was at night, the scanning room would most likely be empty. It's convenient, but it was planned that way.

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Old January 4 2013, 02:01 PM   #262
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Post contains no spoilers.

I'm reading the Firefly comics. I've got the three hardcover compilations (thank you people who actually listened to my xmas requests, yes I do prefer this to a blender). The first one has a bit at the back:

"The following section contains the pre-predoduction memo A Brief History of the Universe Circa 2515 A.D. written by Joss Whedon for use during the Serenity motion picture."

It's an interesting background of Earth-that-was and what happened next, much of which is gleaned by paying close attention to the show but nice to read it all in one place. This bit seems just utterly ridiculous: "Prostitution as we understand it had long since been abolished by the legalization and strict federal legislation of the sex trade. "Companion" houses were set up throughout the central planets." Oh really. So prostitution has been wiped out because everyone is happy for it to have been replaced with rich people only high class sex workers?! Like everyone can afford this? Like this doesn't open up a huge market for non-regulated, non-elitist sex trade where you don't have to worry because no fancy dress Companion would ever in her right mind choose you?

Whedon is an a weirdo. It's not like he's painted some evolved human picture ala TNG either, there is no reason given the people we see to think that prostitution would not have a demand.

Talking about the Companions he says.. "they lived not unlike nuns.." This guy is really quite into his whore Madonnas.

Now this does apply to the core planets which as we saw in Ariel are highly regulated places run by Alliance and not dirtballs like the outer rim. But I still can't see this wiping out prostitution no matter how regulated life is, especially when you dangle the Companion carrot which doesn't even have any moral qualms attached to it in front of everyone's face. Here is something YOU WANT and it is highly respected, it's wonderful really.. but you suck so you can't have it.

Now we do see


OF course all that regulation and the nunnery does shed some light on how Inara may have felt suffocated and prefers her life on Serenity.

And the hardcover comic compilations are really gorgeous. Very nice artwork, extra portraits throughout. A treat.
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Old January 5 2013, 12:08 AM   #263
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The simple answer to the question in your spoiler is, yes.
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Old January 6 2013, 03:42 PM   #264
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EP 10 - WAR STORIES



Da sexy episode. BDSM, sweaty man chests, hot girl-on-girl action, unrequited sexual tension, gals with guns. I'll be in my bunk. Funniest episode for a while (despite the torture porn) with some great lines. But it's the Zoe-Wash-Mal ménage à trois that gives it some heart. The final scene was beautifully played.
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Old January 6 2013, 05:11 PM   #265
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This would have made a better movie, but that's to fill in all the insanity with explanations. It does bother me WHY in this huge hospital no one else is in the morgue and no one else is in or using the imaging chamber. It's just conveniently empty and not a tech in sight. But I still enjoyed it!

I think the most telling part is in the end:

JAYNE: What're you gonna tell the others?

MAL: About what?

JAYNE: About why I'm dead.

MAL:I hadn't thought about it.

JAYNE: Make something up. Don't tell 'em
what I did.

Mal stares at him for a bit and then closes the outer door. I think Jayne's remorse and that he actually cares what people think of him confirmed for him whatever suspicion of good he had about the man. Though it does boggle the mind a bit as they could have all ended up dead thanks to his betrayal.
Considering how Jayne joined Mal originally, you'd think Mal couldn't be too surprised.
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Old January 7 2013, 03:58 PM   #266
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need to finish these off asap now...

EP 11 - TRASH



The continuity episode. Ah, yes, we bandy chinese insults. Haven't done that for a while. And what if Simon & River figured out what Jayne was up to in Ariel? And, of course, the inevitable return of Christina Hendricks and another heist-job-that-almost-goes-wrong. Okayish episode. I'm trying to figure out what is that's 'off' about Hendricks' character. It's like the writers (or actress) can't decide if she's Hit Girl or a femme fatale. Meanwhile Baccarin's Inara just continues to be wasted.
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Old January 7 2013, 10:37 PM   #267
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Nooo... I don't have much time this week, having trouble keeping up. Might manage war stories tonight.

And yes, she was wasted
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Old January 9 2013, 09:18 AM   #268
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EP 12 - THE MESSAGE
EP 13 - HEART OF GOLD




The war one and the whore one. No huge surprises. OK, maybe the 'resurrection' in The Message was a nice twist, but both eps fairly by-the-numbers. So I find myself distracted by those little touches. Jayne's hat. The thronging extras (wish we saw more of those bustling communities, but I guess budget prohibited it). How good the costume design is (I liked Simon's black/gray stripe top). The Serenity flying through icy canyons. How beautiful Mal's face is in some shots. And I swore I heard someone use the word 'quim'.
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Old January 9 2013, 10:38 AM   #269
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"Man walks down the street in that hat, people know he's not afraid of anything."

Two guest stars from these episodes guested on Chuck too.
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Old January 10 2013, 07:26 PM   #270
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EP 14 - OBJECTS IN SPACE

Ermm...I suppose Whedon didn't know the show was going to be cancelled? That was a pretty good episode that would have been better earlier in run. But it kinda sucks as a finale.

So I guess we're done here Has made me curious to see Serenity again though as I suspect will make a lot more sense now. I've also got special features to watch, and now feel safe to read up on series without fear of spoilers.
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