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Rear Admiral
Location: Second star to the right and 'round back to last night
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Episode of the Week: 11001001
The Bynars are a pleasure to watch. All miniature and cute and friendly and synchronized, they’re like Oompah Loompahs without the creepiness. If you want to add the creepiness back in, here’s a chilling thought: something like this could be an early stage in the evolution of the Borg. Crusher is really annoying in this episode. Fortunately, her part is small. Why do the Bynars delete Minuet? We don’t know what happened off camera, but from what we know about the situation, it seems the four Bynars on the Enterprise should be let off with a slap on the wrist and no action taken against Bynaus. It makes me wonder, how does 24th century Federation justice give a slap on the wrist? It is said often said in the series that Federation justice is based on rehabilitation rather than punishment, but these particular criminals don’t need rehabilitation.
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Location: Liverpool, UK
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Re: Episode of the Week: 11001001
Nice observations about the Bynars - always wished we'd see them again. Perhaps they served some time on Memory Alpha to pay off their debt to the Federation? My only nitpicks - regarding the encryption key. The Bynars only wanted Riker, Picard being their was "a fortunate happenstance", how would Riker have entered the encryption key in tandem by himself? Also, why use an encryption key at all? They wanted their world to be saved, so why make it more difficult?!
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Re: Episode of the Week: 11001001
Quinteros: "There's nothing you can do." ...as bridge crew stands by helpless. There had to be SOMETHING else they could've tried.
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Re: Episode of the Week: 11001001
![]() Perhaps the second encryption key would've automatically sent if the Minuet program hadn't been interrupted?
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Re: Episode of the Week: 11001001
It wasn't a complicated filename, either. It was probably as obvious as they could make it. They just weren't capable of much thought at that point, couldn't emulate human thinking, and fucked it up royally. The need to have two people input it is probably another sign of their failing thought processes... They never did pretend they understood humans, hence their kidnap plan instead of mere plea for help. But they could have used Minuet or other expert program as their interface...
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Location: Asheville, NC
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Re: Episode of the Week: 11001001
Glad they fixed the approach lights on the recalled discs. At first I thought they removed it to make their footage look more unique compared to STIII, but than the lights are seen in the next shot. And while I do wish I could give Riker a bonk on the head for being a girl seeker when he still clearly has feelings for Troi, I'll give it a pass because he's just indulging himself and trying to have a good time. And for all my hate towards the holodeck, it's use here was well executed. And I will always love the Bynars line "You might have said no". Made total sense to me given Starfleet's reputation of willful genocide and the way they blindingly follow the Prime Directive. Score 1 for the aliens. |
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Rear Admiral
Location: Second star to the right and 'round back to last night
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Re: Episode of the Week: 11001001
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Vice Admiral
Location: NJ, USA
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Re: Episode of the Week: 11001001
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Location: I said out, dammit!
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Re: Episode of the Week: 11001001
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Vice Admiral
Location: Cookstown, Ontario, Canada
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Re: Episode of the Week: 11001001
There is some puzzling moments though like the aforementioned moment where Picard being there was "fortunate happenstance" when they needed two people to do the code together. Another is when Data and LaForge can't find Picard and Riker, the two senior officers and just assume they beamed off, when it's usually Star Trek convention for the Captain to go down with the ship or at least be the last one off. I also couldn't get fully behind Carolyn McCormick as Minuet because by the time I had seen this episode in syndication, I had to suffer through a couple Law and Order episodes with her as the painfully horrible Olivet.
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Rear Admiral
Location: Second star to the right and 'round back to last night
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Re: Episode of the Week: 11001001
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Re: Episode of the Week: 11001001
Quick summing up: A really nice little episode, not a huge amount of substance to it but well made and with a real charm to it that overcomes some of the odd bits (I've never really brought Riker falling that hard that quickly for a computer program. Though it's probably one of the few pre-DS9 episodes to acknowledge what most people would use the technology for. "Give me a hot woman who likes my trumpet"). Great effects as well, as everyone said.
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