Coming July 2013: STAR TREK ENTERPRISE — RISE OF THE FEDERATION

[Christopher]

^Not my department, I'm afraid.

[Mage]

Just wait and see then I guess.

[Defcon]

ATimson wrote:

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It's certainly what killed the German translations of the series, though.

And like so many things lately in TrekLit, it has been revived.

Cross Cult has announced today that they will give Enterprise another try and have (re)started to work on Kobayashi Maru.

So I guess the chances of your book being published in German have risen as well, Christopher.

[Therin of Andor]

Christopher wrote:

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^Actually the Spaceflight Chronology said just the opposite, that Rigel was a founding member

But didn't they drop out early?

[Christopher]

^From what Memory Beta says, there are several related but conflicting sources about Rigel's status from around that time, some saying they were a founder, some saying they almost were but held off, etc. I don't know what the SFC specifically said beyond what's cited in that Memory Beta article I linked to, since the SFC is a book I've never actually gotten around to buying.

[Man of Steel]

I just finished reading The Romulan War in anticipation for this since I know that the new book will pick up where Romulan War ended.

But Christopher what I'm curious to know is this: Are you continuing the T'Pol Trip thread(We last some them married) .... Possibly? Maybe? Was Michael being purposely vague?

[Reanok]

Man of Steel wrote:

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I just finished reading The Romulan War in anticipation for this since I know that the new book will pick up where Romulan War ended.

But Christopher what I'm curious to know is this: Are you continuing the T'Pol Trip thread(We last some them married) .... Possibly? Maybe? Was Michael being purposely vague?

Ditto I was hoping the Trip/T'pol story thread they were married and their story would be explored further in future Enterprise books too!

[Christopher]

Remember, that epilogue scene in To Brave the Storm was set in 2186. A Choice of Futures is set in 2163-4. So it would take a while to get them to that point.

[Man of Steel]

Christopher wrote:

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Remember, that epilogue scene in To Brave the Storm was set in 2186. A Choice of Futures is set in 2163-4. So it would take a while to get them to that point.

So basically in your story we get the following:

Trip's still undercover
The Aftermath of the War.
Starfleet as we know it today coming together

I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting.

Do we get to see a new Enterprise get commissioned as well?

I'm also curious to see how it went from NX to NCC and why...

[Christopher]

Man of Steel wrote:

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So basically in your story we get the following:

Trip's still undercover
The Aftermath of the War.
Starfleet as we know it today coming together

Maybe. You'll know what you get when you get it.

Do we get to see a new Enterprise get commissioned as well?

Canon makes it clear that NCC-1701 is the first Federation starship named Enterprise, and it's generally accepted that it was commissioned in 2245.

I'm also curious to see how it went from NX to NCC and why...

The "NX" designation is generally used for experimental vessels, test platforms for new technologies. The first time we ever saw the designation was in The Search for Spock, where the Excelsior as a transwarp testbed was designated NX-2000. But when we saw the Excelsior years later in The Undiscovered Country, equipped with standard warp drive, its registry was NCC-2000.

[Sci]

Christopher wrote:

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The "NX" designation is generally used for experimental vessels, test platforms for new technologies. The first time we ever saw the designation was in The Search for Spock, where the Excelsior as a transwarp testbed was designated NX-2000. But when we saw the Excelsior years later in The Undiscovered Country, equipped with standard warp drive, its registry was NCC-2000.

I for one see no reason to assume that "NX" has the same meanings in the Federation vs. United Earth Starfleets. For the UESF, "NX" was a class of ship -- NX-class ships receiving a numerical designation in order of production. Presumably, other classes of UESF ships had other letter designations -- perhaps there's a YF-class starship, for instance.

So the paradigms -- NX-class vs. [Ship Name]-class; numerical registry for a particular class in order of production vs. general registry of "NCC" and testbed ship registry of "NX" -- seem completely different between the FSF and UESF.

[Christopher]

Sci wrote:

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So the paradigms -- NX-class vs. [Ship Name]-class; numerical registry for a particular class in order of production vs. general registry of "NCC" and testbed ship registry of "NX" -- seem completely different between the FSF and UESF.

But that's just it -- the Federation is a different nation from United Earth. Different nations use different vehicle registry prefixes. NCC is for Federation ships. Simple. (True, some of the Daedalus-class ships in the Romulan War books were referred to with NCC numbers, but they were also given the anachronistic "U.S.S." prefix, so the given designations may have been erroneous.)

However, I recently saw Doug Drexler say something on Facebook about how the intent was for Enterprise to remain NX-01 because it would always be a testbed for new technologies, so even though it was used as the class name, apparently the creators' thinking was that it did represent the experimental/testbed designation even at the time.

[flavaflav]

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I have a quick question and don't want to start a new thread. In preparation for the new book, I've started a rewatch of 'Enterprise'. I was watching "Minefield" and became a little confused when the Romulan ships decloaked. In the Enterprise books, I thought the Romulans weren't able to cloak ships yet, just objects like mines. Yet in this ep, they can cloak their ships just fine. Am I remembering things incorrectly?

[ChristopherPike]

flavaflav wrote:

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Sorry to hijack the thread, but I have a quick question and don't want to start a new thread. In preparation for the new book, I've started a rewatch of 'Enterprise'. I was watching "Minefield" and became a little confused when the Romulan ships decloaked. In the Enterprise books, I thought the Romulans weren't able to cloak ships yet, just objects like mines. Yet in this ep, they can cloak their ships just fine. Am I remembering things incorrectly?

I think those ships are described as experimental prototypes in "The Good That Men Do". There's somekind of catastrophic failure because of the power requirements IIRC. It might explain why the Romulan heard over the hail, seemed so concerned about espionage and the prospect humans might be spying on them.

Another idea to make these cloaks consistent with TOS "Balance of Terror" could be what those flea-like Drones were shown doing in Season 4. Maybe they're using somekind of holographic technology across their hulls... projecting what's around, instead of another starship design. Leaving what we understand to be cloaking technology in later Star Treks, something a lot more complicated? Involving something not possible any earlier, like shifting a profile into subspace beyond any ability to see it. Enterprise occasionally slipped cloak into its dialogue, but more often went out their way to use less futuristic terms like stealth technology or camouflage. Yeah. Not perfect, I know...

[King Daniel Into Darkness]

flavaflav wrote:

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Sorry to hijack the thread, but I have a quick question and don't want to start a new thread. In preparation for the new book, I've started a rewatch of 'Enterprise'. I was watching "Minefield" and became a little confused when the Romulan ships decloaked. In the Enterprise books, I thought the Romulans weren't able to cloak ships yet, just objects like mines. Yet in this ep, they can cloak their ships just fine. Am I remembering things incorrectly?

What really happened was:

-"Balance of Terror" establishes that cloaking devices were known only to the Federation as "theoretically possible" prior to being seen in the episode.

-Enterprise ignored the above, and made cloaking devices common a century before TOS. We saw the Xyrillians, Suliban and Romulans using them.

-The post-Enterprise novels tried to reconcile ENT and TOS, and IMO did so very very badly.

The concept of invisible ships was amazing and new according to TOS. Even with this novelverse "fix" cloaked Romulan ships should have been a suprise to nobody in 2266, let alone Spock.