So we're undoing Indistinguishable from magic?

[Hartzilla2007]

[QUOTE=TigerBait;7180840]I thought it was a great scifi story mags...and certainly the Scotty story needed to be concluded at some point. [quote]

Yes it is nice that the TOS characters have the class to go out with dignity instead of clinging to the reset button to deal for their (ironically in this case) lives.

I dont know what it is, but people just dont stay dead in this universe!

Sadly until the recent shenanigans in three certain books for the most part except for 3 cases where in 1) death was only for a few seconds, 2) the character was saved because of safety features in the area, and 3) being the only outrageous example people have stayed dead with this belief in death being a temporary inconvenience being a fanon myth. And in the first two examples they weren't even dead long enough to warrant any reaction since they back pretty quickly.

[Christopher]

^It's hard to tell what three examples you're referring to there.

[zarkon]

I think maybe Geordie should forswear love at this point

[Defcon]

Christopher wrote:

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^It's hard to tell what three examples you're referring to there.

My guess would be

that he means Trip's "resurrection" in the Enterprise post-finale books (although here recent is stretching it a bit), Janeway in The Eternal Tide and apparently the sort of resurrection of Data in POM.

ETA: Seeing Hartzilla's post after mine, I guess I misunderstood the question

[Hartzilla2007]

Christopher wrote:

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^It's hard to tell what three examples you're referring to there.

Scotty when Nomad killed him, McCoy when he was killed on the planet in Shore Leave, and Spock and his two film death and resurrection.

Except for I believe those three incidents everyone else who kicked the bucket is still dead (at least in canon).

[Christopher]

Scotty was actually clinically dead for several minutes, not seconds. They had to move him from the bridge to sickbay, and there was a fair amount of debate about whether to let Nomad "repair" him.

[Hartzilla2007]

Christopher wrote:

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Scotty was actually clinically dead for several minutes, not seconds. They had to move him from the bridge to sickbay, and there was a fair amount of debate about whether to let Nomad "repair" him.

Okay I did not know it was several minutes, its been a while since I've seen the episode, but still it was a considerably short period of time to the point of being along the grieving process and its not like they incinerate new developing plot lines in the cleansing fire of the reset button with it like with Spock or two of the afore mentioned novels, and in the case of the other one start off on a plot line that (at least as far as I'm concerned) just didn't really work.

[shanejayell]

I tossed a comnment over in the David Mack thread. Is IMF being treated as non-canon at this point?

[King Daniel]

Well, Geordi was demoted back to commander and basically told Picard "Gee whizz, was I ever dumb to think I could ever be more than an engineer!" in Plagues of Night. Not ignored, but brushed off for no good reason.

I eagerly await the next Typhon Pact book, where the Borg invasion is cranked down to a minor skirmish.

"Rememeber when those two Borg scout ships flew by, and the whole quadrant got carried away with false reports of destruction on a planetary scale?"

[Hartzilla2007]

KingDaniel wrote:

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Well, Geordi was demoted back to commander and basically told Picard "Gee whizz, was I ever dumb to think I could ever be more than an engineer!" in Plagues of Night. Not ignored, but brushed off for no good reason.

I eagerly await the next Typhon Pact book, where the Borg invasion is cranked down to a minor skirmish.

"Rememeber when those two Borg scout ships flew by, and the whole quadrant got carried away with false reports of destruction on a planetary scale?"

I'm also waiting for the book where the Typhon Pact breaks up and the one released when the books get up to 2387 that brings Romulus back.

While we're at it how long until the original DS9 is back?

[TigerBait]

^ or a couple of her former commanding officers, as we lost two of them recently!! maybe they'll both stay dead...but i'm not holding my breath

[Sci]

KingDaniel wrote:

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Well, Geordi was demoted back to commander and basically told Picard "Gee whizz, was I ever dumb to think I could ever be more than an engineer!" in Plagues of Night. Not ignored, but brushed off for no good reason.

To be fair, Geordi's arc in Indistinguishable From Magic blatantly contradicts his arc in 2004's A Time for War, A Time for Peace, wherein Geordi considers taking a promotion to first officer but decides that he wouldn't be as good of a first officer as chief engineer, that he doesn't want to be promoted to his level of incompetence, and that he's happy where he is.

Ultimately, what we're seeing is two different visions of what it means for Geordi to experience character development. Seems to me as a reader that this is just the sort of creative difference that happens sometimes.

[RPJOB]

Geordi has also been through a lot since A Time to... The Federation has had a large number of people killed. A large part of the fleet destroyed. There's enough reason for him to decide that perhaps he should move up. Pressing the reset button isn't character development.

How long has it been since TNG and Geordi's awful luck with women? Should he simple continue to be shown striking out again and again and again? It's like Worf. He also cannot find someone. Chances are, unless it's Troi she'll be pushing up daisies at some point. That's not character development, it's a running joke.

[tomswift2002]

But I seem to recall hat with Magic at one point it was going to be a two-book story, and then the editor basically let Wolverine at it and said one book? So maybe there was stuff that was dropped out hat would've explained more of what was going on.

[Christopher]

tomswift2002 wrote:

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...and then the editor basically let Wolverine at it...

Huh?