So we're undoing Indistinguishable from magic?

[BillJ]

I haven't seen it disappear from my bookshelf yet.

[MatthiasRussell]

Lonemagpie wrote:

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Well, FUCK. I was looking forward to seeing what they'd do with the cover if they did.

I hope they still do it, numbered or not, cos I just want to see what the cover would be...

HAHAHA. I was thinking the same thing.

[Lonemagpie]

MatthiasRussell wrote:

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HAHAHA. I was thinking the same thing.

I love the cover it's got already, but CrossCult have got such a rep for great covers...

[Relayer1]

BillJ wrote:

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I haven't seen it disappear from my bookshelf yet.

The Continuity Cops will be kicking in your door any time now...

[KRAD]

JarodRussell wrote:

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And it won't ever change if you keep that submissive mindset.

It's not a "submissive mindset," it's fulfilling the terms of the legal document that authors sign with the company that owns the copyright and trademark of Star Trek. What you call a "submissive mindset" I call "obeying the law."

[Starbreaker]

yI loved the first half of Indistinguishable From Magic and liked the second half. The characterization of Geordi was great and it was great to see him take center stage in a novel.

I was kind of annoyed at all the familiar characters in the novel, but I understood when David said it was an editorial decision to have him include familiar characters. What irks me about that is that there are some very popular novels that had little to no familiar characters. Fire Ship had only a few pages of the Voyager crew and there were long stretches of the Destiny children that focused on Erika Hernandez, who was only in three episodes of Enterprise, surrounded by barely known characters. It's not Trek fans are so picky that they can't read ST books unless there is a first or second tier character on every page.

As far as canon/continuity/whatever, I'm okay with it. Federation is considered one of the best books in the entire line and that book is seriously apocryphal.

[Christopher]

KRAD wrote:

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It's not a "submissive mindset," it's fulfilling the terms of the legal document that authors sign with the company that owns the copyright and trademark of Star Trek. What you call a "submissive mindset" I call "obeying the law."

I call it doing the job we're hired to do. If you're hired as, say, a production illustrator on a movie, it's not a "submissive mindset" to be an illustrator rather than trying to do the director's job or the star's job. It's just fulfilling your own responsibilities as opposed to someone else's.

Star Trek does not belong to us. And I'm not saying that just as a matter of copyright law, but as a matter of creative ownership. The way I look at it is this: If a universe I created in my prose writing became successful enough that it got opened up to other writers in, say, a shared-universe anthology, I'd want to reserve the right to have the final say about the content of the other authors' stories about my characters and creations. I'd want to remain the final arbiter of what was "real" and what was a valid representation of those characters, those ideas. So I think it's only right that if I'm working in someone else's universe, I respect their ownership of their creations the same way I'd want others to respect my ownership of mine. That's not submissiveness, it's professional courtesy and the Golden Rule.

[Lonemagpie]

Christopher wrote:

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I call it doing the job we're hired to do. If you're hired as, say, a production illustrator on a movie, it's not a "submissive mindset" to be an illustrator rather than trying to do the director's job or the star's job. It's just fulfilling your own responsibilities as opposed to someone else's.

Indeedy. I'm far from a submissive person, but when you play in somebody else's sandbox you go in knowing that others - including the sandbox owner - play there too.

(I've been doing this for 20 years, and it kind of unnerves me that people might misread the thread and think that's what bugged me, without the specific context)

[KRAD]

I can so totally see that over the title of your next book on the cover, David:

"Far from submissive!"

[zarkon]

supramissive

should be a thing

[Lonemagpie]

KRAD wrote:

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I can so totally see that over the title of your next book on the cover, David:

"Far from submissive!"

Hey, would be a good title for a Fifty Shades parody... Hm...

[King Daniel Into Darkness]

Maybe if it explains why Geordi and Leah are no longer an item.

50 Shades of Geordi (and he can't see any of them)

[Daddy Todd]

KingDaniel wrote:

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50 Shades of Geordi

I would SO read that book...

[Lonemagpie]

Daddy Todd wrote:

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I would SO read that book...

Has to be his memoirs of being a prisoner of Lursa and B'Etor...

[JD]

^I had a really great joke post, but after that last one...... it's not so funny.