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Old November 5 2012, 06:30 PM   #136
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Re: Mockingbird Lane - It didn't suck!

Not having been a watcher of the original series, what exactly is Marilyn's relation to the rest of the family? Is she a niece? Is there any back story on that?
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Old November 5 2012, 07:05 PM   #137
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Not having been a watcher of the original series, what exactly is Marilyn's relation to the rest of the family? Is she a niece? Is there any back story on that?
Exactly the same as here. The unaired pilot that someone else linked to earlier even made reference to her being the daughter of Lily's sister.
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Old November 5 2012, 07:21 PM   #138
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The reference to the sister made it into the aired pilot too.

If the show by some miracle gets picked up, the sister shold be played by Justine Bateman.
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Old November 5 2012, 11:30 PM   #139
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If Marilyn's motivation was concern for Eddie's welfare and Lily's orders, where did it go when the guy goes down? "Oops!" doesn't fit that scene either. Either it's just a cute one liner, which undermines (makes boring) the Marilyn character. Or it was supposed to be a hint of evil Marilyn, except as I complained earlier, if that was what it was supposed to be, it failed miserably. "Oops!" is too cutesy, either way.

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Yes, there was some hint of evil Marilyn. The hoboes finding a home wasn't evil, though, but offbeat sentimentality. There was also explicit family dynamics that didn't fit evil Marilyn. Nor did her attempt to save the scoutmaster fit that. If she was supposed to killed him on purpose, the scene was incorrectly set up. For one thing, the "oops" was too cute by half.

They probably would have tried to get the character to gel, but it was too blurry to keep my interest.
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Old November 6 2012, 03:25 AM   #140
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What would've been the correct Marilyn response?
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Old November 6 2012, 03:29 AM   #141
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I can't believe that people are doing an in depth analysis of that Marilyn scene. It was fun. That's it. There is no further depth to the freakin' Munsters.
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Old November 6 2012, 05:07 AM   #142
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I can't believe that people are doing an in depth analysis of that Marilyn scene. It was fun. That's it. There is no further depth to the freakin' Munsters.
The scene only comes up as part of the evil Marilyn/most monstrous of the Munsters thesis. The idea's not quite hallucinatory, there are a couple of hints. Which are contradicted by scenes like this (unless you force an interpretation.) I'm not sure what evil Marilyn is supposed to want. We know what Granpa wants, and Herman, and even Eddie. How being the most evil one of all makes her most concerned about enforcing Lily's wish to protect Eddy is baffling. As you say, nothing from the character, which was never defined, just a funny one-liner.

Correct response? More than one, I should think. Sincerely concerned Marilyn: F-bomb, sound partly covered by stair creaking back down. Evil Marilyn: (Giggle) Bimbo Marilyn: Oops! (Yes, that is the line, but bimbo Marilyn is a ghastly mistake. And suddenly talking like Jennifer Tilly makes it ten times worse.) Permanently faking "nice" Marilyn: "Bon appetit!"
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Old November 6 2012, 06:24 AM   #143
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"Oops!", she said, with a slightly mad twinkle in her eye.
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Old November 6 2012, 06:57 AM   #144
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I've rewatched that scene a couple of times and I don't see it as so over the top cloying (the oops seems really quiet to my admittedly not great ears) And it is ultimately meant to be a cute scene. Reading over at IMDB it seems this one is polarizing for a lot of people.
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Old November 17 2012, 10:08 PM   #145
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I watched it with my wife despite our better judgement and it was just awful...it needed a total rewrite, how'd it even get a green light?? The jokes about a serial murderer living there early in the show were tasteless, and just demonstrated they didn't know what direction to go dramatically/comedy-wise. What a bomb this was. One of THE worst pilots made in 15 years. Not surprised it didn't make it to series at all.

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Compared to, say, the aborted Wonder Woman pilot or that unwatchable Justice League pilot from a few years back?

This was very slickly done, witty, and professional by comparison. You may have found the humor tasteless, but I thought the whole bit with the dead hobos in the walls was hilarious--in a sick way.

"We prefer it pre-cleansed."

OK I did watch the JLA pilot recently (well 2/3rds of it anyway)and that was worse than this dung heap. All I can say is at least Singer has worked on H+ recently too.

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Old November 18 2012, 02:30 AM   #146
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OK I did watch the JLA pilot recently (well 2/3rds of it anyway)and that was worse than this dung heap. All I can say is at least Singer has worked on H+ recently too.
You're made of sterner stuff than I am. I honestly couldn't finish watching the JLA pilot . . . and I've sat through the some pretty awful movies.

That GENERATION X pilot did several years back was pretty horrendous, too. (Not to be confused with MUTANT X, which was just mediocre.)
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Old November 18 2012, 07:51 AM   #147
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I finally got around to seeing this. I really enjoyed it. I'd love for this to go to series but it sure doesn't look likely at all at this point. Total bummer. Oh, well...I'm looking forward to Fuller's take on Hannibal Lecter whereever that airs.
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Old November 18 2012, 09:29 PM   #148
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I'm going to admit I consciously avoided this until I saw this thread. After watching it on Hulu I have to agree with a lot of the comments here. The production design is fantastic. It definitely has a very distinct look to it, and a beautifully weird one at that. I enjoyed the actors in their varying roles and the little nods here and there to what was (including Herman's intro) were nicely done. The dark humor did make me laugh a few times.

I also have to say I really enjoyed the updated version of the Munster theme song! I hadn't expected them to use it as much as it was.
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Old November 19 2012, 12:44 AM   #149
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I enjoyed this, too. Eddie Izzard was hilariously creepy and I really liked the family dynamic. Too bad they chose not to pick the series up.
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Old November 20 2012, 08:22 PM   #150
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I had read about this show in the Fall Preview of Entertainment Weekly but have yet to see an episode.
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