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View Poll Results: Rate The Persistence of Memory.
Outstanding 71 56.35%
Above Average 41 32.54%
Average 12 9.52%
Below Average 1 0.79%
Poor 1 0.79%
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Old November 8 2012, 12:23 AM   #256
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I just want to pop in and thank everyone who has bought this book so far — you've helped it to debut at #30 on the Nov. 18, 2012, New York Times extended list for mass-market paperback fiction. Your support has helped me become, after more than a decade of writing books, a "New York Times bestselling author." And for that, I thank you.
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Old November 8 2012, 12:31 AM   #257
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Wow, congrats. That is awesome. How long has it been since a Trek book has made the NYT Bestsellers List?
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Old November 8 2012, 12:42 AM   #258
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I just want to pop in and thank everyone who has bought this book so far — you've helped it to debut at #30 on the Nov. 18, 2012, New York Times extended list for mass-market paperback fiction. Your support has helped me become, after more than a decade of writing books, a "New York Times bestselling author." And for that, I thank you.
Well, my copy hasn't arrived yet, but I'm rather excited about it.

You are welcome ! (Although as I'm in England the sale hardly counts towards NY Times sales).
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Old November 8 2012, 12:43 AM   #259
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Congrats on making the list.
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Old November 8 2012, 12:55 AM   #260
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Well, congratulations, David Mack.
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Old November 8 2012, 01:47 AM   #261
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I just want to pop in and thank everyone who has bought this book so far — you've helped it to debut at #30 on the Nov. 18, 2012, New York Times extended list for mass-market paperback fiction. Your support has helped me become, after more than a decade of writing books, a "New York Times bestselling author." And for that, I thank you.
It's deserved.
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Old November 8 2012, 02:45 AM   #262
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Old November 8 2012, 09:45 AM   #263
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Finished it yesterday. Let it all roll around in my head....



All in a all, a great read. I'm going to hold off voting for this one, since I want to grade the trilogy as a whole. I understand they won't be as connected as Destiny was, but still, I want to grade the story in it's totallity.
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Old November 8 2012, 09:54 AM   #264
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Finished last night, very good book. I enjoyed Part 2 a lot as it was different to normal Star Trek. Can't wait for the next book now.
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Old November 8 2012, 10:05 AM   #265
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Happy for you David and happy to have participated, I pre ordered the whole trilogy some time ago.
Now I am reading Immortal Coil and will go on with Persistence of Memory right after
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Old November 8 2012, 02:03 PM   #266
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Wonder if he'll repair his chameleon circuit

Or if he'll be like the doctor and not bother to
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Old November 8 2012, 04:54 PM   #267
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I'm thinking that Data died in Nemesis and the character we "meet" at the end of TPOM is Data 2.0.

By the way, that chameleon circuit is a great idea and should be used.
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Old November 8 2012, 07:56 PM   #268
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Before I continue, I've not read any of the other posts in this thread, I'll go back and read it once done, hopefully not all what I am about to say has already been said.

Firstly, I would just like to thank you David Mack for what is in my most not so humble opinion the best Trek book to come out this year, if not for a good few years. It was not just fun, but an unexpected joy to read. Some of the events and the structure of the book felt like a "David Mack Greatest Hits Album." We had the Orbital insertion from A Time to Kill. We had a Starship hiding in a Gas Giants atmosphere similar to Wildfire. We also had the extended period of time chronicling the adventures of a secondary character before they meet up with the primary characters. And I loved it, yes you've rehashed ideas, but they felt fresh with new twists, Geordie even made a reference to the Tezwa insertion and how badly that went for his team.

The story of Soong was fun, I liked the first person perspective narrative in his section, his highs and lows were interesting, although he comes across as a bit of a bastard, he's a lovable one. His unrelenting love for his boys came across on the page and his final sacrifice seemed appropriate and the way Data has been brought back seems plausible, he's Data, but different and if he shows up again, as I suspect he does, I hope we see how different Data now is to how he was before he died. Unlike the recent resurrection of herself which just seemed meh in comparison, the resurrection of Data was brilliant and had me smiling like a loon when I was on the bus.

I enjoyed the primary story (or is it more a secondary story) of the heist, investigation and subsequent infiltration of the Breen/Borg factory. There are a few questions I have regarding that. Why didn't the factory become inert like all other Borg tech post Caeliar and why was it there? Wasn't the rogue Borg Lore allied with somewhere nearer the Delta Quadrant?

I did gasp and need to read the sentence twice when Choudhury was killed, it was unexpected and I share Worfs sentiments regarding it being a senseless death.

As you can probably tell, I really did like The Persistence of Memory, after a few lack luster novels, this was a real joy to read and I can't wait till Silent Weapons is out in a few weeks.
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Old November 9 2012, 12:45 AM   #269
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Let's do some math. Lets add up the total number of main, canon characters.

TOS - 7 (Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty, Sulu, Uhura, Chekov)
TNG - 8 (Picard, Riker, Crusher, LaForge, Data, Yar, Worf, Troi)
DS9 - 7 (Sisko, Kira, Odo, Bashir, O'Brien, Quark, Dax)
VOY - 8 (Janeway, Chakotay, EMH, Paris, Kim, Neelix, Kes, 7 of 9)
ENT - 7 (Archer, T'Pol, Trip, Reed, Hoshi, Travis, Phlox)

That gives us 37 charcters.
Not to nitpick on details, but you forgot Commander Katherina Pulaski and Wesley Crusher (TNG) as well als Arex and M'Ress (TAS) (not sure about canonicity of TAS). Pulaski and Crusher are still alive and kicking; they never perished.

OT: When is Katherine coming back, btw? Last thing I heard she was at the Troi's wedding.
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Old November 9 2012, 02:17 AM   #270
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Remember how in Nemesis, the Enterprise detected a positronic signature from sectors away? How come that didn't come up in this book? Oh, wait. Cuz it was dumb.
Yeah, I always assumed that that positronic signal was somehow directed at the Enterprise for the express purpose of getting their attention.
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