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Old October 22 2012, 06:26 PM   #31
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Re: The trouble with trailers for 3D films.....

I think we agree then, the OP statements:

The trouble with trailers for 3D films..... ........is that they need to be attached to a 3D movie.
Is not necessarily true.
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Old October 22 2012, 07:42 PM   #32
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Re: The trouble with trailers for 3D films.....

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^^ Agreed.

My point was that I've seen trailers for 2D movies attached to 3D movies, and I've seen trailers for 3D film attached to 2D movies (obviously the trailer was in 2D, also).

Also, A 3D movie isn't ALWAYS shown in 3D everywhere. My 14-screen theater often (but not always) has a 3D film on two screens -- They have a showing of it in the 3D IMAX screen, but also have a showing of it on a 2D screen. Other times, a 3D movie may only be show on the 3D screen for the first 2 weeks or so, and then it is only shown on the 2D screen.

I often go to the 2D screening of a 3D film, rather than the 3D screening.
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Old October 22 2012, 08:03 PM   #33
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Re: The trouble with trailers for 3D films.....

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I think we agree then, the OP statements:

The trouble with trailers for 3D films..... ........is that they need to be attached to a 3D movie.
Is not necessarily true.
I disagree, what's the point of going to all the bother of doing it with 3D in mind if you aren't going to promote it appropriately especially as most of those going to see it will see it in 3D?

To deny/disgree with this is just lunacy. Is it a full moon tonight?
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Old October 22 2012, 08:09 PM   #34
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Re: The trouble with trailers for 3D films.....

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I think we agree then, the OP statements:

The trouble with trailers for 3D films..... ........is that they need to be attached to a 3D movie.
Is not necessarily true.
I disagree, what's the point of going to all the bother of doing it with 3D in mind if you aren't going to promote it appropriately especially as most of those going to see it will see it in 3D?

To deny/dissgree with this is just lunacy. Is it a full moon tonight?

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Old October 22 2012, 08:27 PM   #35
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Re: The trouble with trailers for 3D films.....

Sorry. I misunderstood what you meant by "need to be...".

As a function of "promotion" sure, I agree that would certainty help.
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Old October 22 2012, 08:32 PM   #36
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Re: The trouble with trailers for 3D films.....

Transwarp Drive wrote: View Post
Shape-Shifter wrote: View Post
I think we agree then, the OP statements:

The trouble with trailers for 3D films..... ........is that they need to be attached to a 3D movie.
Is not necessarily true.
I disagree, what's the point of going to all the bother of doing it with 3D in mind if you aren't going to promote it appropriately especially as most of those going to see it will see it in 3D?

To deny/dissgree with this is just lunacy. Is it a full moon tonight?

Not for another week, where I am.

Now, I don't have much experience with 3D movies, so I don't really know what the practices are concerning the showing of 3D trailers, but there do seem to be some variations from theater to theater, from chain to chain, or from region to region. I'm also not sure whether we can expect a 3D trailer for this movie right away, or perhaps sometime later in the promo cycle.

I do think, however, that insinuations of lunacy are probably best done without, even ones with the (at best-ambiguous) "guffaw" graemlin appended.
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Old October 22 2012, 09:01 PM   #37
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Re: The trouble with trailers for 3D films.....

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I think we agree then, the OP statements:

The trouble with trailers for 3D films..... ........is that they need to be attached to a 3D movie.
Is not necessarily true.
I disagree, what's the point of going to all the bother of doing it with 3D in mind if you aren't going to promote it appropriately especially as most of those going to see it will see it in 3D?

To deny/dissgree with this is just lunacy. Is it a full moon tonight?

Well...yeah. If someone really wants to promote that a film is in 3D -- and the best way to do that is showing the trailer in 3D.

Having said that, are they really planning to "push" the 3D-ness of this film? I know it has been converted to 3D (and some scenes shot in 3D), but does that mean they will be pushing the 3D so much that they won't want to attach the trailer to a non-3D film -- such as Skyfall? Could they still attach the first trailer to Skyfall, and promote the 3D-ness through other means?

For example, Marvel's The Avengers was in 3D, but the studio do not go all-out promoting it as a 3D film. I saw one of the first trailers for The Avengers, and it was in 2D (and I saw the film in 2D). So not every 3D film always has trailers in 3D -- Why would ST "need" to be any different.
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Old October 22 2012, 09:24 PM   #38
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Re: The trouble with trailers for 3D films.....

Also, we're talking about a Teaser Trailer, and Teaser Trailers often don't have any actual footage frm the Film, so, if that's the case, if it's just going to be a Logo, and a Voice over, and maybe some reused footage from the First movie, I wouldn't expect that to be in 3D.

First full trailer (Possibly with The Hobbit?) yea, maybe it'll be a 3D trailer.
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Old October 22 2012, 09:37 PM   #39
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Also, we're talking about a Teaser Trailer, and Teaser Trailers often don't have any actual footage frm the Film, so, if that's the case, if it's just going to be a Logo, and a Voice over, and maybe some reused footage from the First movie, I wouldn't expect that to be in 3D.

First full trailer (Possibly with The Hobbit?) yea, maybe it'll be a 3D trailer.
I think you have to contextualise what this film will be, promoting it with a 3D trailer, whether its teaser or not, is an unparalleled opportunity.

I think they'll go with SFX shots like TOS opening titles where the Big E flies towards you at speed, that sort of thing, a Starfleet emblem in space that has depth never seen before etc etc.

I haven't been to see a 3D film where there weren't 3D trailers, hence I ask again, what's coming out in the near future in 3D because that's where the trailer will likely be.
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Old October 22 2012, 09:38 PM   #40
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Re: The trouble with trailers for 3D films.....

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I think we agree then, the OP statements:



Is not necessarily true.
I disagree, what's the point of going to all the bother of doing it with 3D in mind if you aren't going to promote it appropriately especially as most of those going to see it will see it in 3D?

To deny/dissgree with this is just lunacy. Is it a full moon tonight?

Not for another week, where I am.

Now, I don't have much experience with 3D movies, so I don't really know what the practices are concerning the showing of 3D trailers, but there do seem to be some variations from theater to theater, from chain to chain, or from region to region. I'm also not sure whether we can expect a 3D trailer for this movie right away, or perhaps sometime later in the promo cycle.

I do think, however, that insinuations of lunacy are probably best done without, even ones with the (at best-ambiguous) "guffaw" graemlin appended.
Sorry about the lunacy thing, no malice intended.
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Old October 23 2012, 12:07 AM   #41
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Re: The trouble with trailers for 3D films.....

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First full trailer (Possibly with The Hobbit?) yea, maybe it'll be a 3D trailer.
With a December release, having a trailer with The Hobbit could tie into Orci's "trailer by Christmas" line.
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Old October 23 2012, 02:24 AM   #42
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Re: The trouble with trailers for 3D films.....

Transwarp Drive wrote: View Post
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Also, we're talking about a Teaser Trailer, and Teaser Trailers often don't have any actual footage frm the Film, so, if that's the case, if it's just going to be a Logo, and a Voice over, and maybe some reused footage from the First movie, I wouldn't expect that to be in 3D.

First full trailer (Possibly with The Hobbit?) yea, maybe it'll be a 3D trailer.
I think you have to contextualise what this film will be, promoting it with a 3D trailer, whether its teaser or not, is an unparalleled opportunity.

I think they'll go with SFX shots like TOS opening titles where the Big E flies towards you at speed, that sort of thing, a Starfleet emblem in space that has depth never seen before etc etc.

I haven't been to see a 3D film where there weren't 3D trailers, hence I ask again, what's coming out in the near future in 3D because that's where the trailer will likely be.
I admit I am not an expert in marketing, but I would think they'd also want to advertise to the audience sitting in the 2D theaters, as some of them may be interested in the 3D aspect for Star Trek, but not the film they're currently seeing in 2D.
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Old October 23 2012, 03:45 AM   #43
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I admit I am not an expert in marketing, but I would think they'd also want to advertise to the audience sitting in the 2D theaters, as some of them may be interested in the 3D aspect for Star Trek, but not the film they're currently seeing in 2D.
I agree -- and that was kind of one of my points. I think there are other ways to advertise the 3D aspect of a movie rather than just through a 3D trailer.

A 2D trailer for the people in 2D theaters is important, also. It can get those people interested in seeing the film. If the studio thinks it's important for those people who didn't see the 3D trailer to to have the 3D aspect advertised to them, then the studio will need to find other ways to "push" the 3D aspect 3D on them. A 3D trailer is not the only way to push the 3D aspect (granted -- it is very a good way).
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Old October 23 2012, 01:39 PM   #44
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There are really not many relevant 3D movies from now until STID release: The Hobbit, Oz and G.I.Joe.

Unless Paramount doesn't want to see any of the 180 million spent on the movie back, we will see plenty of 2D trailers.

Friday, October 26
Silent Hill: Revelations 3D
Friday, November 2
A Liar's Autobiography
Wreck-It Ralph

Wednesday, November 21
Life of Pi
Rise of the Guardians

Friday, November 30
The Collection
Friday, December 7
Dino Time
Friday, December 14
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
Friday, December 21
Cirque du Soleil: Worlds Away
Friday, January 4
Texas Chainsaw 3D
Thursday, February 14
Escape From Planet Earth
Friday, March 8
Oz: The Great And Powerful
Friday, March 22
The Croods
Friday, March 29
G.I. Joe: Retaliation
Friday, April 5
Jurassic Park 3D
Friday, May 3
Iron Man 3
Friday, May 10
The Great Gatsby
Friday, May 17
Star Trek Into Darkness
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