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Old October 12 2012, 10:49 AM   #1
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What'd you prefer to have mastery of,The Force or Sith powers and why?

From the Star Wars universe, what would you prefer having a complete mastery of - The Force
or Sith powers and please say why, as in what humorously, seriously and/or creatively witty things
would you most want to do and get up to, with your chosen mastery choice.

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Old October 12 2012, 11:18 AM   #2
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Re: What'd you prefer to have mastery of,The Force or Sith powers and

Aren't they the same basic powers?
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Old October 12 2012, 11:22 AM   #3
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Re: What'd you prefer to have mastery of,The Force or Sith powers and

Sith.....much more fun, plus you get to wear your bathrobe all day long. lol
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Old October 12 2012, 11:35 AM   #4
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Re: What'd you prefer to have mastery of,The Force or Sith powers and

Which one has more party tricks?
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Old October 12 2012, 11:40 AM   #5
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Re: What'd you prefer to have mastery of,The Force or Sith powers and

The sith use the Force just as the Jedi use the force, the only difference is in their application.

^And the obvious answer to which has more party tricks is.

The Force is not some party trick.
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Old October 12 2012, 12:16 PM   #6
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Re: What'd you prefer to have mastery of,The Force or Sith powers and

Oh I bet Anakin did more than his share of party tricks to impress the girls. Certainly managed to misuse a speeder that way.
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Old October 12 2012, 06:00 PM   #7
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Re: What'd you prefer to have mastery of,The Force or Sith powers and

BillJ wrote: View Post
Aren't they the same basic powers?
Pretty much. The Sith use force lightning while the Jedi don't. If they have other powers than the Jedi beyond the lightning I can't think of any.
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Old October 12 2012, 06:23 PM   #8
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Re: What'd you prefer to have mastery of,The Force or Sith powers and

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Aren't they the same basic powers?
There are such things as powers exclusive to a given side, but it's the dark side of the Force, so if you have mastery of the Force, and the right knowledge or training, you can use the dark side powers. So the OP question seems to falsely imply mutual exclusivity.
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Old October 12 2012, 06:33 PM   #9
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Re: What'd you prefer to have mastery of,The Force or Sith powers and

Is making Natalie Portman get the hots for you while you say any kind of crap your mind can spit out while still working the subconscious attraction-magic a light side or dark side ability?

... Which is to say, mind control is obviously the best Force power, and Timothy Zahn's Thrawn trilogy makes it pretty clear that it's a dark thing.
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Old October 12 2012, 06:41 PM   #10
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Re: What'd you prefer to have mastery of,The Force or Sith powers and

Which side has cookies?

...anyway, they are the same basic powers except that opting for the dark side may have short term benefits but inevitably leads to bad stuff, so that I gotta wonder why anyone would be so self-destructive and stupid to go that route. Low self esteem?
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Old October 12 2012, 06:42 PM   #11
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Which is to say, mind control is obviously the best Force power, and Timothy Zahn's Thrawn trilogy makes it pretty clear that it's a dark thing.
From ANH we know mind trick is not dark. But whatever C'baoth was doing to Covell was probably a different story. And whatever Palpatine did to create the creatures in the crypts in COTJ was explicitly stated to be a use of the dark side of the Force.
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Old October 12 2012, 06:49 PM   #12
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I bet you have to be an unusually good guy, like Obi Wan, to use mind control responsibly. The notion that Anakin was using mind control on Padme selfishly is interesting and might have been a good plot element, but sadly its not actually part of the prequels except in the minds of fans who are still scrambling to make sense of it all.
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Old October 12 2012, 06:49 PM   #13
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Old October 12 2012, 07:08 PM   #14
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Temis the Friendly Ghost wrote: View Post
I bet you have to be an unusually good guy, like Obi Wan, to use mind control responsibly.
Yeah, the fact that Obs used it in ANH doesn't mean it's entirely kosher.

"A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack."

The stormtroopers weren't attacking them; they were just questioning passers-by. Sure, they might well have attacked if not for the mind trick, but that doesn't mean the trick itself wasn't a form of attack.
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Old October 12 2012, 07:08 PM   #15
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Yeah, the fact that Obs used it in ANH doesn't mean it's entirely kosher.

"A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack."

The stormtroopers weren't attacking them; they were just questioning passers-by. Sure, they might well have attacked if not for the mind trick, but that doesn't mean the trick itself wasn't a form of attack.
Actually, it does mean that. It was used for defense. ROTJ calls it a "Jedi mind trick", as opposed to a "Force mind trick", for a reason. If it was considered to be "not kosher" on Obi-Wan's part you'd think that would have been mentioned somewhere. But the point is that it's not a dark side power even though we sometimes see darksiders using it (LOE). Besides, bumper sticker speak aside, the presumed "attack"/"defense" dichotomy is problematical; if we refuse to allow Jedi to fight to defend others, they become entirely ineffectual and useless.
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