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Old November 4 2012, 01:48 AM   #196
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Re: 15 Reasons JJ "Ruined & Destroyed" Star Trek

Okay, wow. That was a potential thread-killer/mood-killer, I wrote up above.

So, to break the ice...

... Budweiser is a good company to invest stock in. It's still going strong 250 years from now!

Nokia. Either they have a retro-tune theme going on or they've kept the same sound for a quarter of a milennium. Either way, invest in them too. I have a Nokia myself. I'm not a shareholder though.
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Old November 4 2012, 01:54 AM   #197
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Re: 15 Reasons JJ "Ruined & Destroyed" Star Trek

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Okay, wow. That was a potential thread-killer/mood-killer, I wrote up above.
See, the thing with your rape comment is... "thread-killer" and "mood-killer" are similarly offensive expressions. It's an insult to people who actually lost someone in killings and murder. Killing of a human being is much worse than killing a thread or a mood.

Another terrible expression for example is "this thread just got nuked". A blatant insult to everyone who got nuked (or rather lost loved ones), for example, in Hiroshima.

Or "this thread is a trainwreck". Is it really?
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Old November 4 2012, 01:58 AM   #198
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Okay, wow. That was a potential thread-killer/mood-killer, I wrote up above.
See, the thing with your rape comment is... "thread-killer" and "mood-killer" are similarly offensive expressions. It's an insult to people who actually lost someone in killings and murder. Killing of a human being is much worse than killing a thread or a mood.

Another terrible expression for example is "this thread just got nuked". A blatant insult to everyone who got nuked (or rather lost loved ones), for example, in Hiroshima.
I should've seen that one coming.

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Old November 4 2012, 02:04 AM   #199
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Re: 15 Reasons JJ "Ruined & Destroyed" Star Trek

JarodRussell wrote: View Post
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Okay, wow. That was a potential thread-killer/mood-killer, I wrote up above.
See, the thing with your rape comment is... "thread-killer" and "mood-killer" are similarly offensive expressions. It's an insult to people who actually lost someone in killings and murder. Killing of a human being is much worse than killing a thread or a mood.

Another terrible expression for example is "this thread just got nuked". A blatant insult to everyone who got nuked (or rather lost loved ones), for example, in Hiroshima.

Or "this thread is a trainwreck". Is it really?
Yes and no.

Given the frequency and singular humiliation and horrific experience rape undeniably is, and without subtracting from the other scenarios you are bringing up, I think Lord Garth makes an excellent point.

Likening these other scenarios --however horrible they are-- is disingenuous to the very real possibility (and, sadly, likelihood) that there are members here on this board or even in this thread who have been raped.

In other words, you're picking at straws to make a minor point, Jarod. "Rape my childhood" is a horrible, offensive way to describe something as trivial as a fucking movie. Going off the deep end and trying to implicitly justify it because there are other comparisons and expressions that others use citing other terrible occurrences, as if it somehow should negate how horrible the "rape" analogy is, is insensitive, needlessly fickle, and honestly, moronic.
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Old November 4 2012, 03:04 AM   #200
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Re: 15 Reasons JJ "Ruined & Destroyed" Star Trek

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Conveniently, Trek '09 also received critical acclaim.

Exactly. But even if it hadn't, so what? If I like a film, I don't give a damn whether it got critical acclaim or not. That should not be amongst the criteria for anyone's enjoying a film, book, music, whatever.
Exactly right. This is all that matters. If enough people like the movie to make the franchise money and keep it viable then it shall continue. In this case, apparently enough people - myself included - liked what J.J. did to Trek. Was Trek dead - no, I don't think so; certainly tired and resting, but Abrams gave it enough of a kick to wake it up and get a lot more people interested in it than there were before. I have been with Trek since the beginning and simply see this as another chapter - a very exciting chapter of Star Trek's life. J.J. by no means ruined Trek. He gave it a hell of a shot in the arm and introduced a whole new audience to it. Was it perfect, no, but perfect to everyone is something it could never be. It was new, fun, and exciting. I am pleased overall with all the casting that was done and with the story - although I would have loved an extra 30-45 minutes to fill in some stuff. I look forward to seeing where this journey is headed.

The bottom line is if you liked it, great. Get in line along with me and see the next one. If you didn't like it, fine too, don't spend any money to see the next one. If continually griping about it makes you feel good, fine, keep doing that, too.

In the end, it'll be the box office results - likely driven a lot by word of mouth - that'll determine if the ship keeps flying.
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Old November 4 2012, 05:52 AM   #201
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Re: 15 Reasons JJ "Ruined & Destroyed" Star Trek

The OP put "raped my childhood" in quotes. They are clearly referencing the usage of this phrase without actually using it themselves.
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