Starfleet's biggest jerks?

[t_smitts]

Admiral_Sisko wrote:

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This statement isn't fair, because most of the guest characters in The Search for Spock did nothing wrong. Let's look at the following list:

Sarek: He was extremely upset with Kirk upon entering the later's apartment, but this is understandable. Sarek was grieving for his son: he was also disappointed that Kirk had made no effort to return to Spock or his katra to Vulcan. Once Sarek realized that Kirk was not in possession of the katra, he apologized. I don't think he did anything wrong, and find his behavior completely appropriate.

Esteban: He was extremely cautious in his exploration of the Genesis planet. Whether his behavior was more the result of circumstances or his actual style of command is hard to know, as he appeared in only this film. His handling of the impending attack by Kruge's vessel was questionable, but it's important to remember that the Grissom wasn't designed for combat. It was a science vessel with minimal shields and armaments, hardly capable of standing up to a Klingon vessel.

Marrow: He was obviously a friend of Kirk's, and seemed to have a genuine sympathy for what his friend was going through. That being said, he was also "Commander Starfleet" and had an obligation to uphold Starfleet regulations. Genesis was off-limits to anyone but personnel from USS Grissom. Marrow wasn't being a jerk in not allowing Kirk to take the Enterprise on a rescue mission. He was being responsible.

David: His mistake in using proto-matter to complete the Genesis Device is obvious, but it doesn't make him a jerk. He sacrificed his life to save Saavik and Spock, something not at all different from what his father may have done under similar circumstances.

Saavik: People have complained about the implications of an adult woman having intercourse with an adolescent, but let's remember that the pon farr is fatal if it is not properly dealt with.

Styles: No question Styles was a jerk. He gloated over the Excelsior's supposed superiority to the Enterprise before the vessel had even left its docking port. He also threatened Kirk before the latter ordered the Enterprise to warp-speed.

Kruge: Oh, yeah. Kruge was huge asshole. He stole top-secret information about Genesis, took his vessel into Federation space without authorization from the Klingon High Council, destroyed USS Grissom, crippled USS Enterprise, endangered the lives of two Starfleet officers, murdered a civilian scientist, and assaulted a Starfleet flag-officer.

Okay, I was exaggerating about the guest characters in STIII.

First of all, I was really only talk about the characters at Spacedock who rubbed our heroes the wrong way:

-Capt. Styles telling Scotty about the Excelsior breaking Enterprise's speed records.
-The guard who called Sulu "tiny".
-And of course "Mr. Adventure", who's enormously disrespectful to a superior officer.

[JRoss]

That author was off on pretty much every character. The only ones who deserved to be there were Leyton and Cartwright. What about Sloan, Colonel West, Rudy Ransom, Admiral Dougherty and the like?

He gets on folks' case for putting the greater good over that of an individual or small group. By that logic Spock is a jerk.

I'm bristling especially at Jellico. The man was probably the most competent captain that Star Trek has ever shown, and he didn't ask any more from his crew than could reasonably be expected on a military vessel.

[Xhiandra]

Zombie Redshirt wrote:

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Kathryn Janeway- More toes stepped upon. Murdering Tuvix, empowering mind rape, her insane behavior in Equinox are just a few of the things. She has zero consistency and is willing to toss rules and regulations aside one episode and beat you over the head with them the next whenever it suits her. The facts don't matter she's right, you're wrong, end of discussion.

Janeway gets out with an insanity plea. She's clearly not mentally stable enough to be responsible for her actions.

Which means I have to un-nominate Sisko. He's not smart enough to be responsible for his actions.

[Admiral_Sisko]

Xhiandra wrote:

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Which means I have to un-nominate Sisko. He's not smart enough to be responsible for his actions.

Why is that?

[R. Star]

Yeah... Sisko gassing that Maquis colony wasn't good... he should've been sharing a jail cell with Eddington over that one.

[Drago-Kazov]

What about the guy who was with the Traveler.

Remmeber tought is the basis of reality!!!!!!!!

[The Castellan]

The entire staff of the Starbase from ST3
Nachiov (not sure how ya spell her name)
Jellico
The whole of Section 31
95% of the admirals from TOS

[bluepicard27]

lt commander chris hobson: androidist not cool

[TiberiusMaximus]

I'm bristling especially at Jellico. The man was probably the most competent captain that Star Trek has ever shown, and he didn't ask any more from his crew than could reasonably be expected on a military vessel.

I agree, I actually liked Jellico. Not as much as I liked Picard, of course, but he wasn't a bad guy.

[King Daniel Into Darkness]

Captain Pike, TOS version. Sexist much?

[Drago-Kazov]

He was just pretending because aparently the chicks were into it.