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Old August 19 2008, 09:37 AM   #1
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Borg or Dominion??

Hi there

Me and my brother were having an argument the other day on who would win a war between the Dominion and the Borg???

I chose the Borg and he went for Dominion, my argument was that the Borg would simply assimilate Jem'hadar soldiers and then you would end up with an unstoppably force of Jem'hadar/Borg soldier. My other argument was that the Dominion where defeated by the Federation but as for the Borg well did they ever defeat them or did the Borg just retreat back into the delta quadrant???
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Old August 19 2008, 09:46 AM   #2
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If the Borg assimilated a Founder, would the drone be like a T-X from Terminator 3?

Borg hardware endoskeleton covered by polymimetic nanoprobe-cybernetic biomatter?

*sigh* I can dream...
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Old August 19 2008, 09:56 AM   #3
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Re: Borg or Dominion??

Acetylhexene wrote: View Post
If the Borg assimilated a Founder, would the drone be like a T-X from Terminator 3?

Borg hardware endoskeleton covered by polymimetic nanoprobe-cybernetic biomatter?

*sigh* I can dream...
Lol that is a very nice thought but ain't the Borg cyborgs so they are both artificial and organic organism so I'm wondering if it will work on the changelings because they are not organic (or are they???).
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Old August 19 2008, 11:37 AM   #4
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Re: Borg or Dominion??

It depends:

TNG Borg win. May lose a Cube or 2 but win goin' away.

Voyager Borgominion wins in a route. Perhaps the Dominion could fight a proxy war by hiring out the Bajorans and Skreeeeeeeeeans to fight the Borg.
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Old August 19 2008, 01:47 PM   #5
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Photon wrote: View Post
It depends:

TNG Borg win. May lose a Cube or 2 but win goin' away.
Right. :-)
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Old August 19 2008, 02:17 PM   #6
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The Borg would just systematically assimilate everything in their path. The Dominion's only hope is if Starfleet comes to their aid and I'm hesitant to assume that would happen.
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Old August 19 2008, 02:55 PM   #7
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Re: Borg or Dominion??

The Dominion are pretty advanced so if Starfleet can come up with a virus or whatever it was that had the potential to wipe out the Borg I don't see why the Dominion can't...plus the Dominion would have no issues with using it.

Or if a system fall they can always just blow it up.
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Old August 19 2008, 03:33 PM   #8
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I could see the Borg winning a lot of battles, but I could see the Dominion being so ruthless, ramming ships, blowing up whatever they could using whatever dirty weapons they could find, like a virus mentioned above, and win the war in the end...
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Old August 19 2008, 06:32 PM   #9
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I could see the Borg winning a lot of battles, but I could see the Dominion being so ruthless, ramming ships, blowing up whatever they could using whatever dirty weapons they could find, like a virus mentioned above, and win the war in the end...
Not necessarily.
The Borg were mentioned in Scorpion having millions of ships.

I think the Dominion would essentially be overrun by the Borg regardless of how you put it.
Besides, it's the Borg we're talking about ... eventually they will adapt and keep coming.
Voyager Borg would also wipe the floor with the Dominion.
Voyager was lucky most of the time in their encounters with the Borg, but they never defeated one of their large ships with brute force.
The Interceptor in 'Dark Frontier' was an even match for Voyager which was eventually destroyed by beaming a torpedo on-board and detonating from inside.
Same thing happened with the Sphere which was supposed to take Icheb.
The crew never stood a chance with brute force alone and so they beamed a torpedo to a smaller ship which detonated inside the Sphere heavily damaging it in the process (but not destroying it).

From my perspective, the only time when Voyager was turned into an 'uber' ship was in Endgame.
Also, must we really remind ourselves the Borg were continuously defeated by TNG crew?
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Old August 19 2008, 06:48 PM   #10
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Re: Borg or Dominion??

Must be Tuesday...

I propose a new acronym- YABDD- Yet Another Borg-Dominion Debate.

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Old August 19 2008, 07:10 PM   #11
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Well I really don't have the energy to post a full blown reply again, i've replied to so many threads asking this exact same question i've lost enthusiasm , so i'll simply tell you that the Dominion would win.
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Old August 19 2008, 10:07 PM   #12
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The Doms would win. Changelings are immune to assimilation. Plus the Doms are more flexible and creative in their thinking.
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Old August 19 2008, 10:16 PM   #13
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The Dominion wins, hands down. It's no contest. Why? The Jem'Hadar and Vorta are genetically engineered so that they cannot be assimilated. Biologically, anything that enters their bloodstream is destroyed-including nanoprobes. It states specifically they are immune to poison on screen. This is the same situation as species 8472. What the Borg cannot assimilate they cannot understand or adapt to. Therefore it becomes a battle of conventional weapons in which case the Dominion pose much more of a threat then the Federation ever did. They clone at an alarming rate, the ram ships like its nothing, and their Phased Polaron Beams penetrate shields unless you come up with a countermeasure. The Borg cannot do that with no knowledge from assimilation. As powerful as the Borg are, they have their matches. Anything they cannot assimilate is bad news for them.
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Old August 19 2008, 10:32 PM   #14
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So many people underestimating the Borg around here...

Speaking of assimilation, what if the Borg assimilated a Starfleet crewmember who had lots of experience with the Dominion. That might make things more interesting...
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Old August 19 2008, 10:42 PM   #15
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I've gotta go with the Dominion.

The Dominion are close enough to Borg space that the two have likely been well aware of one another for quite a while, if not centuries. If the Borg had felt they were capable of subduing the Dominion, they would have likely already attempted it.

I'm sure any such war would be *incredibly* long (it would make the Alpha Quadrant war look like a fleeting thought), but the Dominion are incredibly ingenuitive and resourceful. And I would bet that, in its home quadrant, the Dominion war machine would be next to impossible to keep up with.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that the Dominion could defeat the Borg. But I'd say that I don't think the Borg could defeat the Dominion.
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