Explanation for the blade of qutluch?

K'kaHn · October 25 2012, 03:41 AM

I was curious to know if there was any cannon explanation for the different shape of the qutluch from "Sins of the Father" in Next Gen. to "Real Life" in Voyager.

Thanks

T'Girl · October 25 2012, 10:58 AM

Different manufacturer, perhaps a new design for this year's catalog?

King Daniel into Darkness · October 25 2012, 11:15 AM

Do we need one, any more than I need a canon explanation for my differently shaped kitchen knives?

I googled and it's spelled "Kut'luch", although "qutlich" shows up in a Klingon Empire novel http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Kut'luch

teacake · October 25 2012, 01:00 PM

You know what I'm tired of? Explaining to people what the word "serrated" means. It seems this word has been dropping out of usage and is seen as overly specific.

So yes KingDaniel we DO need canon to explain your kitchen knives.

Jeri · October 25 2012, 02:18 PM

Wow, you must be kidding -- people don't know what "serrated" is? What is wrong with people; we're ready for the asteroid.

R. Star · October 25 2012, 02:28 PM

I suspect if I told an alien I'm getting a "knife" there are any number of examples I could use. I could use a butter knife one day, a swiss army pocket knife the next or a machete the day after. All of them I'd still use the word "knife" to describe. I would assume the Klingons would have more than one type of "Qutluch" too.

Pavonis · October 25 2012, 02:52 PM

It would help if we knew what kut'luch means in Klingonese. Does it mean "ritual blade used in assassinations of Cha'Dich"? Or is it more general - perhaps just "sharp", "serrated", or "long"?

K'kaHn · October 25 2012, 09:40 PM

KingDaniel wrote:

Do we need one, any more than I need a canon explanation for my differently shaped kitchen knives?

I googled and it's spelled "Kut'luch", although "qutlich" shows up in a Klingon Empire novel http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Kut'luch

It is most definitely not correctly spelled Kut'luch. Dont be stupid.

Pavonis · October 25 2012, 10:06 PM

Transliterating words across real human languages with different alphabets is hard enough. Doing it across a fictional alien language....

T'Girl · October 25 2012, 10:10 PM

Let's not be catty now.

The correct spelling (iirc) has never appeared on screen, so there is no canon on the matter.

For what it's worth, I personal use "Qut'luch."

teacake · October 25 2012, 10:13 PM

Yeah the Q's and K's were all over the shop for a long time.

chrinFinity · November 3 2012, 11:36 AM

Well, like... Jewish people use the Menorah in some of their ceremonies, right? I've seen a lot of differently designed Menorah but they're all called "Menorah."

MacLeod · November 4 2012, 12:05 AM

Or perhaps the reason for the difference is that it was a continuity error. A prop mistake etc...

spot_loves_data · November 4 2012, 02:07 PM

As long as a Klingon word is spelled with an unnecessary apostrophe, I'm happy with it.

Lynx · November 4 2012, 02:18 PM

Maybe it's a dialect thing, I mean we've heard about "Northern Klingons" and "Southern Klingons". So maybe there are different spelling for different Klingons and "Kut'luch" is the official word. By the way, what does the Klingon Language Center say about this?

October 25 2012, 03:41 AM	#1
K'kaHn Cadet	Explanation for the blade of qutluch? I was curious to know if there was any cannon explanation for the different shape of the qutluch from "Sins of the Father" in Next Gen. to "Real Life" in Voyager. Thanks

October 25 2012, 10:58 AM	#2
T'Girl Vice Admiral	Re: Explanation for the blade of qutluch? Different manufacturer, perhaps a new design for this year's catalog?

October 25 2012, 11:15 AM	#3
King Daniel into Darkness Admiral Location: KingDaniel has fallen Into Darkness (in England)	Re: Explanation for the blade of qutluch? Do we need one, any more than I need a canon explanation for my differently shaped kitchen knives? I googled and it's spelled "Kut'luch", although "qutlich" shows up in a Klingon Empire novel http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Kut'luch __________________ Star Trek Imponderables, fun video mashups of Trek's biggest continuity errors. Episode One Episode Two

October 25 2012, 01:00 PM	#4
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: Explanation for the blade of qutluch? You know what I'm tired of? Explaining to people what the word "serrated" means. It seems this word has been dropping out of usage and is seen as overly specific. So yes KingDaniel we DO need canon to explain your kitchen knives. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

October 25 2012, 02:18 PM	#5
Jeri Vice Admiral Location: Chicago, Illinois, USA	Re: Explanation for the blade of qutluch? Wow, you must be kidding -- people don't know what "serrated" is? What is wrong with people; we're ready for the asteroid. __________________ I was Jeri before she was. Isis made animated by Carpe Occasio; thanks!

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October 25 2012, 02:28 PM	#6
R. Star Commodore Location: Terra 3	Re: Explanation for the blade of qutluch? I suspect if I told an alien I'm getting a "knife" there are any number of examples I could use. I could use a butter knife one day, a swiss army pocket knife the next or a machete the day after. All of them I'd still use the word "knife" to describe. I would assume the Klingons would have more than one type of "Qutluch" too. __________________ "I was never a Star Trek fan." J.J. Abrams

October 25 2012, 02:52 PM	#7
Pavonis Commodore Location: South Dakota	Re: Explanation for the blade of qutluch? It would help if we knew what kut'luch means in Klingonese. Does it mean "ritual blade used in assassinations of Cha'Dich"? Or is it more general - perhaps just "sharp", "serrated", or "long"?

October 25 2012, 10:06 PM	#9
Pavonis Commodore Location: South Dakota	Re: Explanation for the blade of qutluch? Transliterating words across real human languages with different alphabets is hard enough. Doing it across a fictional alien language....

October 25 2012, 10:10 PM	#10
T'Girl Vice Admiral	Re: Explanation for the blade of qutluch? Let's not be catty now. The correct spelling (iirc) has never appeared on screen, so there is no canon on the matter. For what it's worth, I personal use "Qut'luch."

October 25 2012, 10:13 PM	#11
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: Explanation for the blade of qutluch? Yeah the Q's and K's were all over the shop for a long time. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

November 3 2012, 11:36 AM	#12
chrinFinity Commander Location: Scmocation	Re: Explanation for the blade of qutluch? Well, like... Jewish people use the Menorah in some of their ceremonies, right? I've seen a lot of differently designed Menorah but they're all called "Menorah." __________________ i hate everything

November 4 2012, 12:05 AM	#13
MacLeod Vice Admiral Location: Great Britain	Re: Explanation for the blade of qutluch? Or perhaps the reason for the difference is that it was a continuity error. A prop mistake etc... __________________ On the continent of wild endeavour in the mountains of solace and solitude there stood the citadel of the time lords, the oldest and most mighty race in the universe looking down on the galaxies below sworn never to interfere only to watch.

November 4 2012, 02:07 PM	#14
spot_loves_data Captain	Re: Explanation for the blade of qutluch? As long as a Klingon word is spelled with an unnecessary apostrophe, I'm happy with it.

November 4 2012, 02:18 PM	#15
Lynx Rear Admiral Location: Lynx Empire	Re: Explanation for the blade of qutluch? Maybe it's a dialect thing, I mean we've heard about "Northern Klingons" and "Southern Klingons". So maybe there are different spelling for different Klingons and "Kut'luch" is the official word. By the way, what does the Klingon Language Center say about this? __________________ Who'd let that cat in here? Visit the Kes Website at the new location: http://lynx677.byethost12.com