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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old October 18 2012, 06:05 AM   #1
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"You Pompous Ass!"

This is, of course, the line shouted by someone within the Federation Council chambers at the outset of Star Trek IV, as the Klingon ambassador declares that "there shall be no peace as long as Kirk lives." Does anyone know the story behind it's inclusion in the film, as it seems a somewhat stronger obscenity than any other I can remember being used in Star Trek, excluding various Klingon and Romulan curses that were never translated.

Star Trek IV has more profanity than any other film, partly because of the crew's journey into the "primitive and paranoid culture" of 1986, as evidenced by phrases such as "double-dumbass on you." The shouting in the council chamber isn't included in the script, however. The script reads only that the Klingon ambassador left the room "with a flourish." The line itself is spoken off-screen, but it's not referenced in the script itself.

Was the line ad-libbed by an extra? Was it missed during the final editing of the film? Did the producers decide to leave it in after deciding that they liked its inclusion, given the tense relationship between the Federation and the Klingon Empire at that time.
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Old October 18 2012, 02:35 PM   #2
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I always wondered what had been shouted across the chambers... now I almost wish I'd never found out! Lol
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Old October 18 2012, 03:16 PM   #3
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I used the CC to feature on the DVD to figure out that line out years ago, it really is kind of random. Funny, but i thought the name of this thread was just a shout out to certain posters here who think they know everything about Trek, and often come across as described
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Old October 18 2012, 03:44 PM   #4
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This is actually a case of diplomatic training. Klingon ambassadors respond more favorably to insults than politeness.
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Old October 18 2012, 04:58 PM   #5
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They were probably commenting on his performance in Babylon 5.
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Old October 18 2012, 06:04 PM   #6
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It's funny. From the original theatrical viewing (when I was 13 years old) until just a few years ago, I had no idea what that line actually said. I'm sure a lot of other moviegoers in 1986 didn't get it either, due to the muffled way it was delivered.

Of course, now that I know what the line says, I also have to scratch my head and ask, just what was the purpose of it? I mean, it's not like the Klingon Ambassador, his staff, or anyone else in the council chamber even responded to it when it was yelled out. It's not like we even saw who yelled it.
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Old October 18 2012, 06:10 PM   #7
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Obscenity ? In 1986? They may well have gotten away with that one in 1969 TV.
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Old October 19 2012, 05:20 AM   #8
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I had never noticed this before ... you learn something new every day!
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Old October 19 2012, 07:29 AM   #9
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Zaldan diplomats, man. What do you expect?
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Old October 19 2012, 08:01 AM   #10
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Well at least the Klingon Ambassador was made to eat his words a few years later.

"There can be no peace as long as Kirk lives""
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Old October 19 2012, 05:01 PM   #11
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Oso Blanco wrote: View Post
I had never noticed this before ... you learn something new every day!
Me too. I'll have to watch the movie again and try to hear it.
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Old October 19 2012, 06:43 PM   #12
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Oso Blanco wrote: View Post
I had never noticed this before ... you learn something new every day!
Wow, in all my countless viewings of this movie, I too have never consciously registered that line. Yet, I've just replayed the scene in question and it's high and clear in the sound mix - quite easily discernible. Weird!
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Old October 21 2012, 01:37 AM   #13
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Grant wrote: View Post
Obscenity ? In 1986? They may well have gotten away with that one in 1969 TV.
Heck, they got away with multiple uses of "jackass" in Pinnochio.
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