Was Amy's "present" always the future?

[Plain Simple]

teacake wrote:

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She does say at one point that her friends will be wondering why she and Rory are aging so fast.

(Don't know if it's necessary in this thread, but spoilers ahead for the lastest episode.)

This, and similar hints over the last few episodes, had me thinking this would play a role somehow in ending the Ponds' story, but, apart from being vague hints at "living out your life at a time you don't belong", it didn't really come in.

[Plain Simple]

RoJoHen wrote:

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It does seem a little silly to use a time machine to visit present-day New York.

But if our present day, is their past day, then it makes more sense. Although one has to wonder what drove them to NY 2012 specifically. Perhaps they were hoping to catch a glimpse of that popular BBC show that shot some scenes in Central Park back in April.

[RoJoHen]

Plain Simple wrote:

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But if our present day, is their past day, then it makes more sense.

That was my point.

[Plain Simple]

RoJoHen wrote:

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That was my point.

Ah, okay. I misunderstood, thought you meant to argue that in fact it was not taking place in 2012.

[Alidar Jarok]

Although it's also a spaceship, not just a timemachine.

[RoJoHen]

I suppose, after last week's episode, this could have been an attempt by the Doctor to be a part of the Ponds' lives, rather than the other way around. Instead of grabbing Amy and Rory and taking them to the ass end of the universe for an adventure, he joined them for a quiet afternoon in Central Park.

[Plain Simple]

RoJoHen wrote:

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I suppose, after last week's episode, this could have been an attempt by the Doctor to be a part of the Ponds' lives, rather than the other way around. Instead of grabbing Amy and Rory and taking them to the ass end of the universe for an adventure, he joined them for a quiet afternoon in Central Park.

That's how I understood it. But why go four years back in time for that? Ah well, Doctors will be Doctors, I suppose.

[Timelord_Victorious]

Very well worked out timeline.

But what are the chances that the next time the Doctor meets the Brigadier'sdaughter, it will be earlier than 2014 ?

And will every adventure in 3 years on Earth show small black cubes littered around?

[Alidar Jarok]

BTW, the reason Angels Take Manhattan takes place in 2012 probably has to do with the fact that the skyline in 2016 will look obviously different than it does now because the construction of the new World Trade Center will be done. It's better to play it on the safe side and say that it's 2012.

That's not a plot-related reason, of course, but it still makes sense as the reason.

[Australis]

Okay, I'm cool with that, just seemed to this furriner it bore an amazing resemblance to pre-2001 WTC.

[Steve Mollmann]

They have to visit New York in 2012 because it's before America was destroyed by Barack Obama's second term.

[Australis]

Mmm, yeah, sure.

[The Wormhole]

Alidar Jarok wrote:

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BTW, the reason Angels Take Manhattan takes place in 2012 probably has to do with the fact that the skyline in 2016 will look obviously different than it does now because the construction of the new World Trade Center will be done. It's better to play it on the safe side and say that it's 2012.

That's not a plot-related reason, of course, but it still makes sense as the reason.

A likely and logical explanation. This wouldn't really be an issue if the Ponds were still the Doctor's regular companions. Then we could just assume they were last at Silver Devastation some couple thousand years in the future, and then the Doctor's next trip was New York 2012. Maybe he meant to show up a few years later and simply mixed up?

However, the surprise he shows over Amy wearing glasses kind of implies they aren't regular companions and that he just picked them up for a trip. So assuming the Ponds are from 2016 or 17, the Doctor shows up and takes them to New York four or five years earlier. Which doesn't really seem all that exciting a trip through time. It's like what the Ninth Doctor said in Father's Day. "The past is another country. 1987 is just a mile away."

[Starkers]

^ "If the past is another country then 1987 is the Isle of Wight"

[The Mirrorball Man]

The Wormhole wrote:

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It's like what the Ninth Doctor said in Father's Day. "The past is another country. 1987 is just a mile away."

But sometimes your favorite restaurant happens to be just a mile away.