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Old May 6 2013, 07:39 AM   #751
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^ What I saw was Bae and the Shadow fly through London out over the ocean, and Bae then try to get away. If that's indeed what happened and they did reach Neverland, I missed some parts of the scene somehow.
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Old May 6 2013, 10:31 AM   #752
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I'm guessing that this anti-magic group aka the Home Office was set up by Wendy Darling. I think more was going on here than just going into Bae's history. And no way is Neal dead. He's probably in Neverland or the Enchanted Forest.
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Old May 6 2013, 12:26 PM   #753
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Or maybe Neil fell into Dr Frankenstein's world, where they are familiar with gun shot wounds.

I too suspect that the home office was set up by the Darlings...I just hope we learn somewhere along the line that Wendy and her brothers didn't start out planning to kill, simply because weren't the Darling kids based on a real family? I'd hate that their descedents would be looked upon as the (attempted) murderers of Snow White and Prince Charming.

Then again, wouldn't they already know he was Bae? Wasn't that why Neil was targeted in the first place? Tamara's cry to Bae, "You of all people..." suggests she does know his full history.

Can't wait for next week!
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Old May 6 2013, 02:57 PM   #754
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What I saw was Bae and the Shadow fly through London out over the ocean, and Bae then try to get away. If that's indeed what happened and they did reach Neverland, I missed some parts of the scene somehow.
They flew through London, then we saw them fly up into the sky towards a break in the clouds where a single star twinkled. Did you see that?
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Old May 6 2013, 02:59 PM   #755
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^ Yeah, but it didn't look to me like they reached it.
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Old May 6 2013, 03:34 PM   #756
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It was pretty clear (to me) that they flew to the "second star to the right" and straight on to Neverland's "world" where Bae fell into the seas surrounding it. I was expecting him to be rescued by mermaids though - didn't think of Hook till he arrived.
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Old May 6 2013, 04:54 PM   #757
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Figured he would have been Peter Pan, but this works too. Kinda dark twist on the fun shadow from the comics. Either way, he had clearly met Hook before and was familiar with the boat...

And yeah, thought it was pretty clear they were in Neverland. Flew past the 2nd star to the right, and then were heading to what's pretty clearly the island from Peter Pan when he wiggled free. Clearly wasn't a suburb of London.
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Old May 6 2013, 06:12 PM   #758
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Enterprise is Great wrote: View Post
I'm guessing that this anti-magic group aka the Home Office was set up by Wendy Darling. I think more was going on here than just going into Bae's history. And no way is Neal dead. He's probably in Neverland or the Enchanted Forest.
Yeah, I think he's definitely in Neverland again. And I think the Darlings set up Home Office too (unless it goes back even further than them). I did like the twist on Peter Pan. I'm wondering if Bae will be Peter Pan or whether we'll meet the actual Pan next week. But, given how Rumplestiltskin is multiple characters it would be fitting that Bae has a couple of identities too.

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It was pretty clear (to me) that they flew to the "second star to the right" and straight on to Neverland's "world" where Bae fell into the seas surrounding it. I was expecting him to be rescued by mermaids though - didn't think of Hook till he arrived.
It was clear to me it was Neverland as well and I too thought he would be rescued by mermaids. But speaking of them, easy way to get Ariel next season!

Overall the episode was amazing. I loved the reveal that Tamara and Greg are working for a larger company, really opens up the whole show. I like the seeds planted between Lacey and Gold, I think Lacey is going to betray him eventually. Loved that Regina was still defiant while she was being tortured, and I really liked the bit where Neal sacrificed himself. I can sense a VERY big cliffhanger coming next episode.
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Old May 6 2013, 09:56 PM   #759
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I'd be shocked if they actually destroy Storybrooke next week. But then I was shocked that they broke the curse in the first season finale so what do I know?!?
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Old May 6 2013, 10:54 PM   #760
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This episode could have been the season cliffhanger-- I can't wait to see what next week has in store.

I'm pretty sure that Bae ended up in Neverland and we'll probably be spending a lot of time there next year, which is cool. I wonder if we'll meet Wendy and the kids again in the present, grown up or not-- I have a feeling the shadow went back for the lot of them once he lost Bae. It was probably their parents who started the "Home Office."
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Old May 7 2013, 12:38 AM   #761
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Yeah, they were obviously approaching Neverland when Bae broke free of the Shadow's grasp and fell into the drink, where he was picked up by Captain Hook, who one would expect to find off the coast of Neverland.

Heck, it's specifically the sight of Neverland on the horizon that causes Bae to panic and make a last-ditch effort to get away from the Shadow . . . .

I don't think there's any ambiguity there at all.

(Note also that they made a point of establishing that time flows differently in Neverland, presumably to explain how Bae could drop into Neverland back in Edwardian times and eventually wind up in the present day somehow.)
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Old May 7 2013, 12:52 AM   #762
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Wow, great episode. I really enjoyed their take on the Peter Pan story, that was not at all what I was expecting. I'm very intrigued by what was established about Greg and Tamara, I was not expeting them to be part of a bigger conspiracy. I wonder if there's anymore to Tamara's hatred of magic than what she said here. I hadn't thought of the Darlings starting the anti-magic group, but given what happened with the Shadow I could definitely see that happening. I can't wait to see where they will end the season, they proved last time that they are not afraid to turn the premise completely on it's head.
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Old May 7 2013, 02:26 PM   #763
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After the ending of last season I'm actually worried what will happen to them all. Not many series can actually manage to do that, otherwise it's usually: "Huh, I wonder how they are going to get out of this one."
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Old May 7 2013, 11:49 PM   #764
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One thing I'm not clear about (which next episode may clarify): is The Shadow meant to be the show's take on Peter Pan, or is there going to be some as-yet-unseen "merger" of Bae with The Shadow to make Pan, tempering the Shadow's cruelty somewhat? Although considering Bae doesn't seem able to fly... unless he's just run out of pixie dust...
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Old May 8 2013, 04:54 AM   #765
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You'll remember in the book/play/movie that peter's shadow was separated from peter, and he tried to stick it to his feet with soap, but Wendy called him a silly boy and darned the shadow to his feet... Did she sew the shadow to the souls of his feet or the souls of his shoes?

Maybe Bay learns how to fly, but he didn't take Hook's hand which is really where the comparison falls short, because Gold has stolen the classic Hook/Pan feud.

Is Cora on the Jolly Roger in Neverland?
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