Once Upon A Time - Season 2 Thread

JD · September 30 2012, 07:16 PM

Since this starts tonight I figured I'd go ahead and start a thread for it. I work until 7:00 tonight, so I'm not sure if I'm going to watch it, but I definitely will be watching it first thing in the morning if I don't. I loved the first season, and I can't wait to see where things go from there.

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As fairytale characters awaken from Queen Regina's curse, they are not transported back to their home; Prince Phillip and his traveling companion realize they will be facing a deadly foe.

stj · September 30 2012, 08:18 PM

Series often talk about big changes but usually only do a soft reboot a la The 37s on Voyager. But this really has been presented as a huge change, so big that the new season is effectively a new series (albeit one with baggage, aka backstory.) If they spend half a dozen episodes going back to something like the first season status quo, the series will be thematically dead. If they do something new, will it be good? Watching to see.

JD · September 30 2012, 08:23 PM

I trust them enough after last season that I'm pretty sure it will be great. I'm still pretty shocked that they actually broke the curse, and brought magic into Storybrooke so early. I wasn't expecting that big of a change to the status quo for at least 3 or 4 years, if ever before the end of the series.

RJDiogenes · September 30 2012, 09:15 PM

I'm pretty psyched about this. I can't wait to see where they go with it.

Enterprise is Great · September 30 2012, 10:02 PM

All the interviews I've read about season 2 sound promising. I've got a feel that season 2 will blow away season one.

stj · October 1 2012, 02:18 AM

Rumplestiltskin hunts Baelfire; Prince Charming and Regina hunt Snow White and Emma Swan; Mulan and Aurora vs. Snow White and Emma Swan; we still have Rumplestiltskin vs the Evil Queen. Well, it'll be busy this season.

But, Henry now thinks of Regina as Mom?

Anwar · October 1 2012, 02:49 PM

She still raised him, he never wanted her to die in the first place. He was just weirded out by how nothing in the town changed except for him and wanted answers. Yes, she wasn't Mom of the Year but she wasn't some horrible molester/child-beater.

js · October 1 2012, 04:22 PM

stj wrote:

But, Henry now thinks of Regina as Mom?

My EXACT biggest problem with the episode. He's never thought of her or treated her that way, much less referred to her that way.

I don't know why they went with that motivation instead of the obvious (and better) one: that Henry, like Emma, is the human moral compass for the fairytale characters.

It's not "don't kill her, she's my mom!"

It's: "don't kill her: YOU are not the bad guys, SHE is! And the good guys don't act like the bad guys!"

Moral compass, yes. "Don't kill my (never cared about her before) mom!" - no.

Otherwise, it just becomes a second emotional bribery echoing Rumpel/Belle - and doing the same thing twice takes away from the Rumpel/Belle promise too.

Greg Cox · October 1 2012, 05:13 PM

Plus, there's the argument that "We're not in fairyland. This is modern-day Maine. You can't just burn the mayor at the stake!"

Mister Fandango · October 1 2012, 05:17 PM

There were a few episodes in the previous season where he was starting to show affection towards Regina, or at least understanding that she genuinely cared for him. That response didn't just come out of the blue, though the use of the word "mom" was a bit awkward.

trekkiebaggio · October 1 2012, 05:26 PM

I don't have a problem with Henry referring to Regina as his mother, for all his knowledge of the fairytale world and that she was the Evil Queen it can't have been easy to see the woman who raised him threatened by an angry mob.

I thought Mulan was great, I thought I recognised her and just saw that she was my favourite in Suckerpunch! The mystery of the fairytale world is intriguing and it'll be interesting to see which characters survived, and the identity of Mr. Whale.

I really liked how the revelation was handled between Emma and her parents. That had to have been such a weird moment.

Really looking forward to the rest of the season.

Greg Cox · October 1 2012, 06:24 PM

trekkiebaggio wrote:

and the identity of Mr. Whale.

My money is on Bluebeard, although I'm not sure where the "Whale" thing fits into that theory.

Beef Squatthrust · October 1 2012, 06:40 PM

Maybe he's the whale from Pinocchio? If Jiminy Cricket can turn human again, why can't a whale?

Greg Cox · October 1 2012, 06:45 PM

Beef Squatthrust wrote:

Maybe he's the whale from Pinocchio? If Jiminy Cricket can turn human again, why can't a whale?

Possible. But I don't remember the whale being a smarmy womanizer . . . .

Beef Squatthrust · October 1 2012, 09:18 PM

Well, I suppose that's true. The characters do tend to keep the better part of their personalities and I never got that from the original story either. Not that we really got much insight into the whale's personality really.

September 30 2012, 08:18 PM	#2
stj Rear Admiral Location: the real world	Re: Once Upon A Time - Season 2 Thread Series often talk about big changes but usually only do a soft reboot a la The 37s on Voyager. But this really has been presented as a huge change, so big that the new season is effectively a new series (albeit one with baggage, aka backstory.) If they spend half a dozen episodes going back to something like the first season status quo, the series will be thematically dead. If they do something new, will it be good? Watching to see. __________________ Morals are what you do to other people. Other people, what we call society, are essential to human happiness. Therefore, morals are the path to happiness. My morals, your happiness; your morals, my happiness: It's a fair trade.

September 30 2012, 08:23 PM	#3
JD Admiral Location: Arizona, USA	Re: Once Upon A Time - Season 2 Thread I trust them enough after last season that I'm pretty sure it will be great. I'm still pretty shocked that they actually broke the curse, and brought magic into Storybrooke so early. I wasn't expecting that big of a change to the status quo for at least 3 or 4 years, if ever before the end of the series. __________________ Over the course of many encounters and many years, I have successfully developed a standard operating procedure for dealing with big, nasty monsters. Run away. Me and Monty Python. Harry Dresden - Blood Rites (The Dresden Files #6)

September 30 2012, 09:15 PM	#4
RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Location: RJDiogenes of Boston	Re: Once Upon A Time - Season 2 Thread I'm pretty psyched about this. I can't wait to see where they go with it. __________________ Please stop by my Gallery and YouTube Page for a visit. And read Trunkards!

September 30 2012, 10:02 PM	#5
Enterprise is Great Rear Admiral	Re: Once Upon A Time - Season 2 Thread All the interviews I've read about season 2 sound promising. I've got a feel that season 2 will blow away season one. __________________ JJverse Star Trek...is gonna rock again! On May 17, 2013!

October 1 2012, 02:18 AM	#6
stj Rear Admiral Location: the real world	Re: Once Upon A Time - Season 2 Thread Rumplestiltskin hunts Baelfire; Prince Charming and Regina hunt Snow White and Emma Swan; Mulan and Aurora vs. Snow White and Emma Swan; we still have Rumplestiltskin vs the Evil Queen. Well, it'll be busy this season. But, Henry now thinks of Regina as Mom? __________________ Morals are what you do to other people. Other people, what we call society, are essential to human happiness. Therefore, morals are the path to happiness. My morals, your happiness; your morals, my happiness: It's a fair trade.

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October 1 2012, 02:49 PM	#7
Anwar Vice Admiral Location: Regina, SK, Canada	Re: Once Upon A Time - Season 2 Thread She still raised him, he never wanted her to die in the first place. He was just weirded out by how nothing in the town changed except for him and wanted answers. Yes, she wasn't Mom of the Year but she wasn't some horrible molester/child-beater.

October 1 2012, 05:13 PM	#9
Greg Cox Vice Admiral Location: Oxford, PA	Re: Once Upon A Time - Season 2 Thread Plus, there's the argument that "We're not in fairyland. This is modern-day Maine. You can't just burn the mayor at the stake!" __________________ www.gregcox-author.com

October 1 2012, 05:17 PM	#10
Mister Fandango Commander	Re: Once Upon A Time - Season 2 Thread There were a few episodes in the previous season where he was starting to show affection towards Regina, or at least understanding that she genuinely cared for him. That response didn't just come out of the blue, though the use of the word "mom" was a bit awkward.

October 1 2012, 05:26 PM	#11
trekkiebaggio Vice Admiral Location: Dancing to the Jailhouse Rock	Re: Once Upon A Time - Season 2 Thread I don't have a problem with Henry referring to Regina as his mother, for all his knowledge of the fairytale world and that she was the Evil Queen it can't have been easy to see the woman who raised him threatened by an angry mob. I thought Mulan was great, I thought I recognised her and just saw that she was my favourite in Suckerpunch! The mystery of the fairytale world is intriguing and it'll be interesting to see which characters survived, and the identity of Mr. Whale. I really liked how the revelation was handled between Emma and her parents. That had to have been such a weird moment. Really looking forward to the rest of the season. __________________ Angelic Hellfire - My novel. Man of Yesterday - My blog, in which I'm writing a superhero story.

October 1 2012, 06:40 PM	#13
Beef Squatthrust Fleet Captain Location: The Constitution State	Re: Once Upon A Time - Season 2 Thread Maybe he's the whale from Pinocchio? If Jiminy Cricket can turn human again, why can't a whale? __________________ "All colours bleed to red, asleep on the ocean's bed. Drifting in empty seas, for all my days remaining..."

October 1 2012, 09:18 PM	#15
Beef Squatthrust Fleet Captain Location: The Constitution State	Re: Once Upon A Time - Season 2 Thread Well, I suppose that's true. The characters do tend to keep the better part of their personalities and I never got that from the original story either. Not that we really got much insight into the whale's personality really. __________________ "All colours bleed to red, asleep on the ocean's bed. Drifting in empty seas, for all my days remaining..."