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Old September 28 2012, 07:57 PM   #16
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Re: Why Are So Few Statutory Rapes Prosecuted?

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If a 15 or 16 year old normally can't even enter into a contract, then how can they possibly be considered responsible enough to choose to have sexual relations?
Having sex has about as much in common with entering into a contract as drinking milk plus at the Korova milk bar has with cleaning the toilets at spacedock.
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Old September 28 2012, 08:15 PM   #17
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If a 15 or 16 year old normally can't even enter into a contract, then how can they possibly be considered responsible enough to choose to have sexual relations?
You cannot forbid 16 year old teenagers to have sex. Well, of course you can but it doesn't have much of an impact, it merely creates some extra enjoyment via breaking a rule (you could call it the 50s factor) for them.
We know that you cannot stand the end of patriarchy and the existence of contraception, that the "good old times" are over and that women are no longer the property of men. But that is your problem, not ours.
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Old September 28 2012, 08:26 PM   #18
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Re: Why Are So Few Statutory Rapes Prosecuted?

most "statutory rape" is b.s., unless it involves actual coercion or force. There's nothing unethical about an eighteen year-old having consensual sex with a fifteen year-old.
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Old September 28 2012, 09:22 PM   #19
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Never thought I would see so many people defending rape.
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Old September 28 2012, 09:23 PM   #20
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If a 15 or 16 year old normally can't even enter into a contract, then how can they possibly be considered responsible enough to choose to have sexual relations?
You cannot forbid 16 year old teenagers to have sex. Well, of course you can but it doesn't have much of an impact, .
as long as someone lives under your roof and you pay their way, you have a measure of control over their behavior.

Otherwise, you're a lousy parent.
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Old September 28 2012, 09:30 PM   #21
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Re: Why Are So Few Statutory Rapes Prosecuted?

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Never thought I would see so many people defending rape.
They're having a discussion about the nature of statutory rape law --the subject you brought up. If you don't want that discussion, I suggest you take the advice given to you in the TNZ thread that you "misunderstood" before you started this thread and take your show on the road. If you want the discussion to remain, don't start misrepresenting what people are saying to depict them as being in favor of rape, because that'll earn you a trolling warning real fast. Clear?
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Old September 28 2012, 09:32 PM   #22
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Old September 28 2012, 09:32 PM   #23
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Old September 28 2012, 09:38 PM   #24
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Re: Why Are So Few Statutory Rapes Prosecuted?

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as long as someone lives under your roof and you pay their way, you have a measure of control over their behavior.
It's ironic to see anyone advocating the use of your position of authority and someone's financial dependence on you to control their personal choices regarding sex in a statutory rape thread.
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Old September 28 2012, 09:40 PM   #25
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Never thought I would see so many people defending rape.
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Old September 28 2012, 10:00 PM   #26
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Re: Why Are So Few Statutory Rapes Prosecuted?

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If a 15 or 16 year old normally can't even enter into a contract, then how can they possibly be considered responsible enough to choose to have sexual relations?
The fact that you view sex as being immediately comparable to contractual obligations says a lot about your mindset on the topic and experiences with it.
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Old September 28 2012, 10:12 PM   #27
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Never thought I would see so many people defending rape.

where is that from?
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Old September 28 2012, 10:16 PM   #28
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Re: Why Are So Few Statutory Rapes Prosecuted?

A British comedy show, "The IT Crowd". I posted it in the threadbomb thread ages ago.
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Old September 28 2012, 10:25 PM   #29
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Never thought I would see so many people defending rape.
They're having a discussion about the nature of statutory rape law --the subject you brought up. If you don't want that discussion, I suggest you take the advice given to you in the TNZ thread that you "misunderstood" before you started this thread and take your show on the road. If you want the discussion to remain, don't start misrepresenting what people are saying to depict them as being in favor of rape, because that'll earn you a trolling warning real fast. Clear?
I'm not misrepresenting anything.

It seems to me that people are indicating in their arguments that "statutory rape is not REAL rape".

Is that the correct or not?
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Old September 28 2012, 10:29 PM   #30
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Re: Why Are So Few Statutory Rapes Prosecuted?

^ There is a debate, yes. To wit:

- Actual rape, as most understand the term, is the committing of brutal sexual assault through force of violence. No one here is defending that, of course.

- Statutory rape, OTOH, is called that simply because of an age difference. Meaning, a relationship that may otherwise be completely consensual, and involves no coercion or assault or violence of any kind, magically becomes "rape" simply because one party may be a few years too old. That is what people are arguing about.
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