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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old September 30 2012, 01:18 AM   #1
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is star trek first contact best star trek movie

Hi I recently watched star trek first contact and without a doubt it is my favorite star trek movie. But I was reading reviews about the movie online recently and read that most people think the movie is ethier bad or okay. I just wanted to see what people here thought about the movie.
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Old September 30 2012, 01:19 AM   #2
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I like FIRST CONTACT. It's easily the very best of the TNG-era movies.
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Old September 30 2012, 02:02 AM   #3
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Probably the most popular of the TNG films.
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Old September 30 2012, 02:07 AM   #4
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It's my personal favorite of all of the trek movies and is in general one of the most popular films in the series.
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Old September 30 2012, 05:39 AM   #5
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A very enjoyable movie. I like it a lot.
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Old September 30 2012, 06:43 AM   #6
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A very enjoyable movie. I like it a lot.
I hated it, contrived nonsense.
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Old September 30 2012, 07:01 AM   #7
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A very enjoyable movie. I like it a lot.
I hated it, contrived nonsense.
Yeah. All that "warp drive" nonsense. How unbelievable is that?
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Old September 30 2012, 07:52 AM   #8
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Well, everything about the Borg sucked (except the way they looked, that was pretty cool). But their entire plan and adding the Borg Queen were terrible. It was a kind of dumb action zombie movie. But it was still by far the best TNG movie.
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Old September 30 2012, 08:13 AM   #9
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But their entire plan...
And what do you think their plan was?

...and adding the Borg Queen were terrible.
Why shouldn't the Borg have an embodiment of the Collective mind?

After all, if you have billions of drones connected together, why shouldn't they function as one mind? Your brain cells do it easily enough. And why shouldn't the Queen be an individual, emoting all over the place? Your brain cells don't have any individuality and can't emote, but when they all act as one, they form your mind, don't they? A mind with a sense of individuality and emotions. So why should it be so implausible that the Borg do exactly the same thing?
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Old September 30 2012, 09:04 AM   #10
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It's a very good movie, but except for things like warpdrive, transporters and such, it lacks what it actually at the core of Star Trek; the moral dillema and exploration of humanity. Essentially, First Contact was a SciFi Action movie. And that's why it's populair.

Other movies have tried to do the moral dillema, with various results.
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Old September 30 2012, 09:22 AM   #11
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What does the Borg Queen add to the Collective again?

A personality that makes rather obvious emotional mistakes?
Causing all the drones around her to die if she does?

She seems more of a liability to the Borg than anything else. Before her the Borg were a scary Collective entity... after just another generic villain whose panties get in a bunch with the best of them.
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Old September 30 2012, 09:35 AM   #12
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What does the Borg Queen add to the Collective again?

A personality that makes rather obvious emotional mistakes?
Causing all the drones around her to die if she does?

She seems more of a liability to the Borg than anything else. Before her the Borg were a scary Collective entity... after just another generic villain whose panties get in a bunch with the best of them.

You know, they were already contemplating adding the Queen for Best Of Both Worlds, but they decided that, to give the Borg a face and voice, the Borg would assimilate Picard, making them more of a menace.
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Old September 30 2012, 10:06 AM   #13
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I loved First Contact. Definitely the best of the TNG movies, but not quite my overall favourite.
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It's a very good movie, but except for things like warpdrive, transporters and such, it lacks what it actually at the core of Star Trek; the moral dillema and exploration of humanity. Essentially, First Contact was a SciFi Action movie. And that's why it's populair.
I say Trek can be and has been a lot of things. That's the beauty of the format. Fun action-adventure is as much "true" Star Trek as the moral quandries and "exporation of humanity" are.
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Old September 30 2012, 10:14 AM   #14
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it lacks what it actually at the core of Star Trek; the moral dillema and exploration of humanity.
That is there also.
It just doesn't kick you in the face with it and walks away giggling madly as Insurrection does.
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Old September 30 2012, 10:16 AM   #15
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First Contact was my favorite Trek movie for years. I managed to over watch it eventually and it's been replaced on the list with TOS movies and ST:XI. But I still love many things about it

And let's not forget it gave us the marvelous opening to In a Mirror, Darkly.
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