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Old August 6 2014, 04:56 AM   #871
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Old August 6 2014, 05:10 AM   #872
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I hate to ask a potentially stupid question, but does anyone know if the DVD/Blu-ray that goes to certain backers will have Prelude on it as well as the main feature?
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Old August 6 2014, 03:03 PM   #873
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I was honestly surprised to see that Prelude to Axanar clocked in at just over 20 minutes, thinking it would be as long as other productions' vignettes, 10 minutes or so.

Has it been revealed anywhere what length the main AXANAR feature is expected to be? If they go for 90-minutes, this would be awesome (but probably a LOT of sleepless nights for the VFX team )
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Old August 6 2014, 04:02 PM   #874
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Old August 6 2014, 04:11 PM   #875
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Old August 6 2014, 04:45 PM   #876
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The “first warship Starfleet ever built” (paraphrase) can’t handle the bad guys, but the peaceful non-military scientific explorer (the Enterprise) will save the day?
A "scientific explorer" that could level the habitable surface of a planet.
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Old August 6 2014, 04:49 PM   #877
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The “first warship Starfleet ever built” (paraphrase) can’t handle the bad guys, but the peaceful non-military scientific explorer (the Enterprise) will save the day?
A "scientific explorer" that could level the habitable surface of a planet.
I dunno. That sounds more like a military mission.
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Old August 6 2014, 05:13 PM   #878
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The “first warship Starfleet ever built” (paraphrase) can’t handle the bad guys, but the peaceful non-military scientific explorer (the Enterprise) will save the day?
A "scientific explorer" that could level the habitable surface of a planet.
I dunno. That sounds more like a military mission.
I wasn't talking about mission but about capability. The class may have, at some point, been earmarked as a deep space explorer but they were definitely designed to go to battle if necessary.

But, I think TOS points to the Constitution-class being much more than an explorer.
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Old August 6 2014, 05:15 PM   #879
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I was honestly surprised to see that Prelude to Axanar clocked in at just over 20 minutes, thinking it would be as long as other productions' vignettes, 10 minutes or so.

Has it been revealed anywhere what length the main AXANAR feature is expected to be? If they go for 90-minutes, this would be awesome (but probably a LOT of sleepless nights for the VFX team )
Yes they say the main film will run 90 minutes.
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Old August 6 2014, 05:30 PM   #880
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The “first warship Starfleet ever built” (paraphrase) can’t handle the bad guys, but the peaceful non-military scientific explorer (the Enterprise) will save the day?
A "scientific explorer" that could level the habitable surface of a planet.
That's because it's easier to study the mantle if you start by vaporizing the entire planetary crust.
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Old August 6 2014, 06:36 PM   #881
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The “first warship Starfleet ever built” (paraphrase) can’t handle the bad guys, but the peaceful non-military scientific explorer (the Enterprise) will save the day?
A "scientific explorer" that could level the habitable surface of a planet.
Remember though - they're building April's/Pike's Enterprise. The one that had a crew of 203; not 430, etc. IMO - It's quite likely that by Kirk's time many Starship/Constitution class ships had gone through a refit that turned them more into exploration/science capable ships.
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Old August 6 2014, 06:50 PM   #882
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The “first warship Starfleet ever built” (paraphrase) can’t handle the bad guys, but the peaceful non-military scientific explorer (the Enterprise) will save the day?
A "scientific explorer" that could level the habitable surface of a planet.
Remember though - they're building April's/Pike's Enterprise. The one that had a crew of 203; not 430, etc. IMO - It's quite likely that by Kirk's time many Starship/Constitution class ships had gone through a refit that turned them more into exploration/science capable ships.
This is a great point.
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Old August 6 2014, 07:37 PM   #883
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The “first warship Starfleet ever built” (paraphrase) can’t handle the bad guys, but the peaceful non-military scientific explorer (the Enterprise) will save the day?
A "scientific explorer" that could level the habitable surface of a planet.
Remember though - they're building April's/Pike's Enterprise. The one that had a crew of 203; not 430, etc. IMO - It's quite likely that by Kirk's time many Starship/Constitution class ships had gone through a refit that turned them more into exploration/science capable ships.
But it was Kirk's ship specifically that could level the habitable surface of a planet.
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Old August 6 2014, 08:20 PM   #884
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But it was Kirk's ship specifically that could level the habitable surface of a planet.
There's nothing in any of the shows that contradict Pike's version having similar, if not as advanced, capabilities.

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TYLER: Then why aren't we doing anything? That entry may have stood up against hand lasers, but we can transmit the ship's power against it. Enough to blast half a continent
So I tend to think the Constitution-class always had strong offensive/defensive weapons.
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Old August 6 2014, 11:56 PM   #885
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A different time. The Klingons are on the move and Starfleet has to keep pace while still continuing their mission to explore. The Constitutions are the extension of their exploration policy while being able to combat Klingons in the space near the borders.

Prior to this Starfleet ships would have difficulty dealing with the combat oriented Klingon warships, as seen in Enterprise. It took two upgraded NX-class ships to even threated one D5 cruiser. An NX-class cruiser was barely able to match a old Bird of Prey or Raptor. The Kelvin era ships could likely handle the D4 and maybe the D5, but not the D6. The Ares was the short term solution to the D6 problem by building a combat ship rather than Starfleet's usual multipurpose starships. The Constitutions are the long term solution to the D6 and it seems the D7 as well, by using the tech from the Ares Project for the next generation of multipurpose cruisers and then increasing its power to make it a "heavy" cruiser.

*What defines a heavy cruiser from any other cruiser in Starfleet?

The term is a left over from the Washington Treaty to World War II era of cruiser construction. The difference between a heavy and light cruiser back then was the size of their main guns. Nothing else. A light cruiser could be as large or larger than a heavy cruiser, but was armed with 6.1 inch guns are smaller. A heavy cruiser was limited to 8 inch guns. All cruisers were limited (by treaty) to 10,000 tons. Most countries cheated a little on tonnage, but the gun limitations were held. You could have a ship that has 6 eight inch guns called a heavy cruiser and also a ship with 15 six inch guns called a light cruiser. The light cruiser will do the most damage in that case. mostly because the weight of all those shells, plus the 6 inch guns could fire rapidly (automatics) while the 8 inch guns has a slower rate of fire until the end of World War II.
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