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Old June 20 2014, 12:12 AM   #586
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Re: Star Trek: Axanar

It's fun to consider how large Starfleet ships became, might ultimately have rested on the fate of the U.S.S. Kelvin.

And ironically, the opposite of how you might think that evolution would go. The ship survives and it's never seen as anything other than what it actually is. A hulking great misstep, with a straight forward decision made not to carry on with classes of that scale.

In another universe, it's destroyed and there's a sense of stubbornly continuing out of pride and exact rebuilding, improving on what was seen as having been taken away before its time. Because that's human nature, I guess...
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Old June 20 2014, 12:22 AM   #587
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Too, Alec, during his time here was completely and consistently unable to handle anything other than absolute praise for what he was doing, and that's naturally off-putting. There is a whole wide range of useful, constructive reaction that can be offered up for discussion in these film reviews, and like USS Intrepid stated above, those opinions should not get thrown out just because of the usual deluge of the haters and mindless trolling comments.
In Alec's defence, I've found him open to both discussion and critique. As I recently said to him, I suspect you two would get on fine if you met face to face. Sometimes, people just clash online when they never would in real life.

I've found Alec gregarious, generous and helpful. And for what it's worth, I believe he has a good, solid script.
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Old June 20 2014, 01:52 AM   #588
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@Pindar,

Is it the Acting you expect to be less than Professional? Or is it the Fx? I have watched and re-watched the trailer, what is less that straight up professional about it?

This is a sincere inquiry.

Thank you,
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Old June 20 2014, 01:59 AM   #589
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@Maurice,

At one point I wondered about your comment about the space battle, I admit. Having taken time to read more of your comments, and D05's comments, I find myself looking for yours and D05's posts to see what it is you have to say. I too am a critical thinker. I always appreciate honesty, even when it stings!

The critical side of me would like to see the distances spread out, and the battles be a _Little-Bit_ more realistic, but not too realistic! I would like to see a scene where a fight turns flight, and the pursuer wins by hammering the enemy at warp speeds for instance.
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Old June 20 2014, 02:07 AM   #590
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@ChristopherPike,

A realistic analogy would be the huge battleships of WW2. They were so expensive, both sides hesitated to fully utilize them if they had any choice in the matter. To loose one in a fight would make both the Admirals, and the Bean Counters shed a tear or two!
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Old June 20 2014, 07:27 AM   #591
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Is there a newsletter to which I can subscribe? I'd like to know the day any further Kickstarter campaign debuts.
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Old June 20 2014, 07:39 AM   #592
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The Axanar team have requested Facebook as the first line of dissemination.

https://www.facebook.com/StarTrekAxanar

They do have a web page as well.

http://startrekaxanar.com/
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Old June 20 2014, 07:52 AM   #593
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USS Intrepid wrote: View Post
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Too, Alec, during his time here was completely and consistently unable to handle anything other than absolute praise for what he was doing, and that's naturally off-putting. There is a whole wide range of useful, constructive reaction that can be offered up for discussion in these film reviews, and like USS Intrepid stated above, those opinions should not get thrown out just because of the usual deluge of the haters and mindless trolling comments.
In Alec's defence, I've found him open to both discussion and critique. As I recently said to him, I suspect you two would get on fine if you met face to face. Sometimes, people just clash online when they never would in real life.

I've found Alec gregarious, generous and helpful. And for what it's worth, I believe he has a good, solid script.
Very likely so. Sadly his track record here often failed to demonstrate that. It's easy to hit the wrong tone (no inflection in ASCII as we said in the Permian age of computers). It's why I typically write the post, hit Preview, walk away, come back a bit later and read it again before hitting Submit.

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The Axanar team have requested Facebook as the first line of dissemination.

https://www.facebook.com/StarTrekAxanar

They do have a web page as well.

http://startrekaxanar.com/
Requested? Meaning what.
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Old June 20 2014, 08:05 AM   #594
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@Maurice,

Requested is probably the wrong way to put it. That was an internal request for us (Axanar Marines etc...) to put forward Facebook as the best way to interact with the Axanar project. Alec and crew are pretty responsive to Facebook.
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Old June 20 2014, 09:26 AM   #595
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That's fine if that's their chosen venue, but not everyone uses Facebook.

Also, sometimes people want to discuss something in a given online community rather than an official channel.
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Old June 20 2014, 09:40 AM   #596
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I enjoy interacting in the forums personally. For quite a long time I refused to touch Facebook. My wife finally talked me into using it.

For anything Trek related, I really enjoy Trekbbs. Good bunch of people here!
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Old June 20 2014, 10:35 AM   #597
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@Pindar,

Is it the Acting you expect to be less than Professional? Or is it the Fx? I have watched and re-watched the trailer, what is less that straight up professional about it?

This is a sincere inquiry.

Thank you,
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I think everything looks fantastic, the production values are great and I can't wait to see it.

I was making a joke as "Top Shelf" usually refers to Adult/Pornographic material in the UK.
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Old June 20 2014, 11:03 AM   #598
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Thought this very thing.
Tobias I loved each beautiful shot but I am curious as to why the decision was made to downsize the gigantic JJ era ships to TOS sizes.
We had a lot of discussions about that, believe me. Basically two reasons:
- The Federation ships would be huge compared to the Klingon ships. It would be visually very difficult to convey the Klingons as a threat to such a fleet.
- The Enterprise should be the biggest, boldest ship in the fleet, so again, it would visually be impossible to convey that with a ship that is dwarfed by those "old" vessels.

Internally we would like to think that Starfleet has made some technology advancements after the Kelvin, so the new ships do not need to be that big anymore.
I see your reasoning, although it still rankles a bit. I wonder if a few lines of dialogue could have explained bigger not necessarily being better - but as you say, the issue has been discussed (no doubt to death!) and the decision made.

That quibble aside, the CG is utterly fantastic. I'm looking forward to seeing orthos of the other ships and close-ups showing the detail in those windows. And more shots of that city too!
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Old June 20 2014, 06:49 PM   #599
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Very likely so. Sadly his track record here often failed to demonstrate that. It's easy to hit the wrong tone (no inflection in ASCII as we said in the Permian age of computers). It's why I typically write the post, hit Preview, walk away, come back a bit later and read it again before hitting Submit.
I think hitting the wrong tone is the cause of the vast majority of disagreements on the net.

I also think, that no matter how hard you try, there will always be people that will misunderstand what you've said.
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Old June 20 2014, 08:43 PM   #600
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Very likely so. Sadly his track record here often failed to demonstrate that. It's easy to hit the wrong tone (no inflection in ASCII as we said in the Permian age of computers). It's why I typically write the post, hit Preview, walk away, come back a bit later and read it again before hitting Submit.
I think hitting the wrong tone is the cause of the vast majority of disagreements on the net.

I also think, that no matter how hard you try, there will always be people that will misunderstand what you've said.
Oh, some people are just geared to take offense when anyone disagrees even slightly with their take. A typical tip-off is "chill out" or "calm down" in response to a perfectly rational message.
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