Kate Mulgrew's decision to not have a romance

[teacake]

PARIS: What do you think, a boy or a girl?
SEVEN: It's a holographic projection.
TORRES: Unfortunately, it's a very good projection. I feel twenty kilos heavier. It even kicks.

Now she doesn't say it feels like it is inside her so I'm thinking it feels like a huge weight on her abdomen with kicking pushes against her. It would be very creepy though if under her clothes there was a holographic skin illusion swollen with weight attached to her body.

[Guy Gardener]

And yet that's exactly what Andy Dick wanted from the Doctor.

[propita]

JanewayRulz! wrote:

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Janeway in the black turtleneck ,

Okay, can everyone agree that her hair looks absolutely great like this? I kinda wish they had kept this, especially compared to that helmet-style she wore later. This was short, but cute, and definitely NOT old.

[teacake]

I like all her hair, but I'm a season 4 girl. Season 1 bun is my least favorite but oddly I thought it was da bomb when I first watched Voyager.

[Nightdiamond]

That was a good episode. If they had found a way to somehow lop off some stuff, or even play it straight, I would have watched a 3 hour movie version on it.

Janeway boinked a hologram- I kind of liked that. Because no other captain would seen doing that--maybe Riker, but the others were to high and mighty.

One of things I like about Janeway.

Janeway falling in love with alien who turned out to be using her--didn't get it as much, he played her, and she couldn't see it? Nah, Janeway would have seen through his ruse- somehow.

Chakotay and Janeway-there was a awkward tension in that situation. Alone, possibly for the rest of their lives, sharing a room, all that sexual tension--I wished they would kissed and got close to doing something, then stop themselves, and promise themselves to forget the whole thing--ala Tasha and Data.

[teacake]

I don't think she was in love with Kashyk, but she enjoyed the seduction element and was sexually attracted to him.

[Guy Gardener]

At best he was the Child Catcher form ChittyChitty-Bangbang, at worst he's Joey Goebbels.

Kathryn shouldn't have pissed on Kashyak if he was burning alive.

[teacake]

Thing is she's a great believer in people achieving a higher good and he fed her just what she would have wanted to hear. A moment of truth, a repentant heart, a desire for redemption. But I think she knew that this story was possibly a little too perfect and given that it was crafted by a man with extensive access to her logs and history she was always wary.

But she still had the hots for him.

[Guy Gardener]

I suppose it's easier to use someone like a piece of meat if you hate them.

Respect gets in the way of a good time all too often.

[Nightdiamond]

Hots or not, you could smell the evil off that guy. I don't know, I get the feeling Janeway should have seen right through that guy.

She suspected, but she wanted him anyway, huh? hmmm

Janeway likes powerful men it seems. She got lured in by the hedonist guy in Prime Factors, who was magistrate or spokesman or something. You could tell something was there.

Then listen to her voice after he rejects her---it's broken--you can actually her hurt in her voice.

[Guy Gardener]

The difference being is that Mark, her finance was still on the table in Prime Factors.

Counter point was a year after she figured out that he had been cheating on her just because he thought that she was dead, and a revenge shag with anyone was more than over due to prove that she had it going on just as well as a player like Mark.

[teacake]

The lust is compartmentalized.

Okay you should not lust after Hitler, but Kashyk was presenting a way out of him being Hitler. WHY did Padme still go for Anakin after he slaughtered the sand people.. probably because he had a very sad childhood.

[Violet.Phoenix]

My theory with "Counterpoint" is that Janeway was manipulating Kashyk the whole time, and she used some seduction to do it. Come on, who can't see that Kashyk had the hots for her as well? There was sexual tension between the both of them in that episode.

Janeway and Chakotayhad tension from early on, but I think it made sense for them to not get together on the show (as much as I would have liked them to). But like Nightdiamond said, it would have been nice to have seen them actually kiss and acknowledge that attraction, but realize that they couldn't have a relationship because of duty. To me that would have made much more sense than the dancing they did around the topic for seven years.

[Guy Gardener]

Who said anything about Anikan and Padme?

[teacake]

I'm just talking about grey areas. It's really not some moral failing if she had the hots for him.