NX class and the Akira Class

[Ar-Pharazon]

Tiberius wrote:

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Got a link to this?

I think it's this one, maybe a little too clean looking for the time period, but cool nonetheless.

[Tiberius]

Yeah, that looks like it's closely related to the Sovereign...

[R. Star]

And I'll say the same thing in this thread that I did in the song bashing thread. Enterprise has a ton of issues, but the NX design isn't one of them. It wasn't my favorite design, but it was functional and worked for the series.

Enterprise had tons of flashy graphics and visual effects, that was hardly the problem.

[Skywalker]

Ar-Pharazon wrote:

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I think it's this one, maybe a little too clean looking for the time period, but cool nonetheless.

I'm glad we didn't get that. It's way too similar to future Starfleet designs. That's also why I'm not a fan of the secondary hull refit they did for Ships of the Line.

[King Daniel]

Ar-Pharazon wrote:

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I think it's this one, maybe a little too clean looking for the time period, but cool nonetheless.

Wasn't there a second concept design? Google image search is failing me, but I remember seeing that pic with another, more like a submarine but with a bridge dome on top and warp nacelles from the sides (which looked like ones from a Klingon Vor'cha class ship)

[horatio83]

The problem of this design is the secondary hull. The actual NX is closer to the rocket design of the Phoenix and the NX prototypes and thus emphasized design history better than a ship which would have already featured a secondary hull.
Furthermore the single biggest mistake of the show was that it wasn't rooted deeply enough in the 22nd century. A ship which looks like a 23rd century design would not have alleviated this problem.

[Jimi_James]

I liked the design of the NX, though I didn't care for it as a stepping stone towards the eventual TOS Enterprise. It felt out of place and too advanced. Had the show been better overall, I would have likely overlooked the design of the ship, as I have with the design of the Abrams Enterprise, but as Enterprise suffered across the board, the ship is just another problem to throw on the pile.

[King Daniel]

I don't buy the NX-01 looking "too advanced" - TOS was made in the 60's, and it shows. If the Gorn from "Arena" is really a fearsome lizard monster when it's obviously a guy in a bad rubber suit, than the original Enterprise is an advanced futuristic starship, whether it looks as it did in 1966 or the 2009 movie.

[horatio83]

In a Mirror Darkly showed that in-universe-wise the sleek Constitution looks more modern than the "guts-sticking-out" NX.

[C.E. Evans]

KingDaniel wrote:

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Wasn't there a second concept design? Google image search is failing me, but I remember seeing that pic with another, more like a submarine but with a bridge dome on top and warp nacelles from the sides (which looked like ones from a Klingon Vor'cha class ship)

Was it this one?
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...ept_sketch.jpg

[King Daniel]

That's the one! Thanks

[BillJ]

Ar-Pharazon wrote:

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I think it's this one, maybe a little too clean looking for the time period, but cool nonetheless.

This is the one. Thanks!

[Skywalker]

I would have preferred a design similar to the Conestoga, something closer to the Phoenix's "rocket between two nacelles" look. No bridge on top, though. Put it at the front of the ship.

[6079SmithW]

horatio83 wrote:

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In a Mirror Darkly showed that in-universe-wise the sleek Constitution looks more modern than the "guts-sticking-out" NX.

IAMD is great in that it canonically disproves the fan complaint that the NX is too advanced for a TOS prequel. The prime universe Connie stomped all over everything in the mirror universe. Considering that the mirror NX was likely more advanced than the prime NX due to the nature of MU starfleet it goes to show just how lightyears ahead TOS tech is compared to ENT tech.

[Robert D. Robot]

C.E. Evans wrote:

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Was it this one?
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...ept_sketch.jpg

I don't care for the version whose sketch is posted above, especially the secondary hull, which looks 'awkward' to me....

I had never seen John Eave's 'second' NX proposal (thank you for including the link!), but I think it is a really nice design. But if the NX we got is the 'Akiraprise', then that second Eave's design would have been the 'Galactiprise' with those retractable nacelles coming out from the sides. I would have liked to have seen the 'Galactiprise' on screen as another early Earth vessel, but still prefer the NX-01 that TPTB gave us.