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Old September 13 2012, 06:18 PM   #16
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I thought someone would have posted this by now:
http://www.geekworldordersite.com/bl...easer-trailer/

This series was talked about a few months back on Coast to Coast AM and a few other sources.

Since Coast to Coast is viewed by some to be a less then creditable source, I decided not to mention anything about it till now.

This trailer though --- it sends chills down my back!
You should know that Coast to Coast has nothing to do with sci-fi. It mainly has something to do with ghost, ufo, time travel, aliens and conspiracy.
Say what? UFOs, Time Travel and Aliens are no longer SciFi? What pray tell is SciFi then?
That ain't SciFi it's fact! On Coast to Coast anyways.
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Old September 13 2012, 07:33 PM   #17
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Rod Roddenberry owns the individual Star Trek movie rights.
No, he doesn't. The Roddenberrys don't own any of Star Trek now. Paramount owns the movie rights, CBS owns the TV rights. The people making this don't own any rights to Star Trek whatever.

This is a fan production.
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Old September 13 2012, 10:18 PM   #18
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Okay maybe its not the right forum, but that trailer has piqued my interest, which is more than I can say for the other webseries I've sampled, Trek or otherwise.

I never thought about the fact that Chekov is only 20 years older than Tuvok and of course they could have met, how fun is that? And the acting from them is guaranteed not to be unwatcahbly painful, the big downfall in web series.

Thanks. Remind us when there's more to watch, maybe in the general Star Trek area.
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Old September 13 2012, 11:00 PM   #19
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I actually wasn't aware of Of Gods and Men, even, so, while I watching the trailer and saw it was a sequel, I bookmarked Of Gods and Men, to watch later
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Old September 14 2012, 01:09 AM   #20
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If nothing else, I now have a new favorite communicator pin.

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Old September 19 2012, 09:29 PM   #21
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Couple things,

Rod does not have any rights to Star Trek as mentioned, he does still get royalty checks from CBS though, so money but not rights.

The purpose behind Renegades is to make a 90 minute pilot, that will be presented to CBS as a pitch for a web series (not a TV series, but hey, who knows ). You can call it a fan film but given that many professionals will be involved we prefer 'independant production' . If the film does not work as a pitch to CBS is will simply be a film for all to enjoy on the internet.

This project is primarily being made by the Star Trek: Of Gods and Men team but will have many new and professional additions to the production team. One of the main goals is raise the bar on the production values (full HD, better VFX, etc..) as compared to the Star Trek: Of Gods and Men that was done on a shoe string budget.

This is not a sequel to Star Trek: Of Gods and Men, it is completely different. It is set 12 years after the return of Voyager and is set in the prime universe timeline. Walter Koenig will play a 140ish Admiral Chekov, which should not be to much of a surprise since we saw and old Mcoy in TNG, Tim Russ also reprises as Tuvok. Garrett Wang has just joined the cast, more actors to be announced.
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Old September 19 2012, 11:18 PM   #22
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Couple things,

Rod does not have any rights to Star Trek as mentioned, he does still get royalty checks from CBS though, so money but not rights.

The purpose behind Renegades is to make a 90 minute pilot, that will be presented to CBS as a pitch for a web series (not a TV series, but hey, who knows ). You can call it a fan film but given that many professionals will be involved we prefer 'independant production' . If the film does not work as a pitch to CBS is will simply be a film for all to enjoy on the internet.

This project is primarily being made by the Star Trek: Of Gods and Men team but will have many new and professional additions to the production team. One of the main goals is raise the bar on the production values (full HD, better VFX, etc..) as compared to the Star Trek: Of Gods and Men that was done on a shoe string budget.

This is not a sequel to Star Trek: Of Gods and Men, it is completely different. It is set 12 years after the return of Voyager and is set in the prime universe timeline. Walter Koenig will play a 140ish Admiral Chekov, Wang has just joined the cast, more actors to be announced.
Good to have a few more details - at least a 90min movie will happen; it's DEFINITELY our Chekov, and a higher quality than OGAM. it'll be interesting to see how you do sets since a 24th Century ship set isn't as known to exist as Kirk's Enterprise (aren't there about 3 now?!)

I guess there is no time travel or parallel universes here, and since Russ, Wang and Intiraymi are all confirmed to be playing their old parts, could one call this a Voyager movie/series?

Has filming already started or was that just a trailer shoot?
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Old September 19 2012, 11:31 PM   #23
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As for the official/fan label... who cares? It's a label, and you're arguing over minutiae just to be contradictory. It's almost as bad as all the ego waving that goes on about what is and isn't canon.

OGAM was an entertaining, quality product that fits into the Trek verse nicely. Even the cheesy low budget graphics had a nice retro scifi feeling to them. No telling what kind of work this is going to be, but I'd say that teaser trailer is just that, a teaser. They probably have a script and a story concept by now, but being they're still announcing actors and cast I don't think they've started shooting. So this one could be awhile, but I'm looking forward to it.
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Old September 20 2012, 12:15 AM   #24
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I'm more excited for this than STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS.

There. I said it.
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Old September 20 2012, 12:18 AM   #25
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As for the official/fan label... who cares? It's a label, and you're arguing over minutiae just to be contradictory. It's almost as bad as all the ego waving that goes on about what is and isn't canon.
When someone tries to claim its "official" they're trying to add an air of credibility the production and it's dishonest. Rod Roddenberry has no rights to produce "for profit" Trek, so call it what it is, a fan film.

For me, it sets the whole project off on the wrong foot from a publicity standpoint.
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Old September 20 2012, 01:25 AM   #26
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You can call it a fan film but given that many professionals will be involved we prefer 'independant production' .
Quite a few so-called Star Trek fan films out there already have benefited from the contributions of professionals.
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You can call it a fan film but given that many professionals will be involved we prefer 'independant production' .
Quite a few so-called Star Trek fan films out there already have benefited from the contributions of professionals.
I figure an independent production is when the rights owner greenlight's a movie/series, but then tells the production company that the condition of approval is that they pay their own way, use their own equipment, etc.

A fan production is when no rights have been granted, but the production company uses the license to create a work based on that franchise.

Renegades is a fan production, just as OGAM was a fan production. That doesn't make it good or bad, but it certainly doesn't make it an independent work, since that would imply they have received the rights to create something from the license. What they're hoping is that this fan production catches the eye of Paramount/CBS, and that said license holder decides to greenlight that work, and then fund it as a "for profit" venture.

No offense against Tom intended, just stating my own opinion.
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Old September 20 2012, 02:30 PM   #28
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You can call it a fan film but given that many professionals will be involved we prefer 'independant production' .
Quite a few so-called Star Trek fan films out there already have benefited from the contributions of professionals.
I figure an independent production is when the rights owner greenlight's a movie/series, but then tells the production company that the condition of approval is that they pay their own way, use their own equipment, etc.

A fan production is when no rights have been granted, but the production company uses the license to create a work based on that franchise.

Renegades is a fan production, just as OGAM was a fan production. That doesn't make it good or bad, but it certainly doesn't make it an independent work, since that would imply they have received the rights to create something from the license. What they're hoping is that this fan production catches the eye of Paramount/CBS, and that said license holder decides to greenlight that work, and then fund it as a "for profit" venture.

No offense against Tom intended, just stating my own opinion.
That is as good as an interpretation as any. It is what it is, fan film or independant production, either way it is not a product made by CBS. As mentioned by an above poster, other fan films (like Phase2) certainly have had professional help.

Beyond Lighthammer's post, nobody is calling this official. It is only 'official' if CBS wants to run with it. The only thing that makes it different is that it is a filmed product made to be a pitchable pilot, and if that does not work it will be released as film for fans to enjoy. So either way the goal is to put out an entertaining product for Star Trek fans.
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Old September 20 2012, 04:37 PM   #29
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I only learned of Of Gods and Men from this thread, and I enjoyed it. It's a really nice fanwanky addition to the Star Trek Universe. Only problem I had with it, is, it was all characters actors, no Leading Actor carrying the movie. I'm looking forward to the Sequel, and with that one little extra of having a Lead Actor that can carry it with Charisma, the Sequel could be awesome.
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Old September 20 2012, 05:16 PM   #30
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There is no sequel planned for STOGAM at this time. In some aspects, Renegades could be a sequel only where Chekov's character is concerned but thats it.
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