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Old September 28 2012, 06:33 PM   #61
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Re: Last Resort was Awesome.

Program has just started, I believe. Been about 10 months since it was first tried, but so far, so good. Just a couple boats tried so far, both Ohio-class. Generally gone along without any problems, and they're increasing the program.

So far, just the BN/GN subs, and not any attack subs at this point. More room to make accomodations for berthing, shower/head use, etc. Like gays in the military, expect this to be another issue that got a lot of play, but really just wasn't a big deal when actually implemented.

And they implied that the Colorado was in that pilot program in the show. The XO was doing a weekly "everything going well, no one's tried to be creepy or assault you?" debrief. So they're awknowledging that they are new to the program, which is a nice way of not having to have an ALL male cast.
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Old September 28 2012, 06:43 PM   #62
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Re: Last Resort was Awesome.

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It would have been even harder if they only ran it during the daytime weekdays, where all shows are EXPECTED to be crap.

Of course, there were at least three female crewmembers on the submarine. They are allowed to serve on subs now, but how many actually do in reality?
What does that even mean? Nobody would make an expensive drama for daytime.

Having a few female sub members isn't magically going to turn a military show into a female-skewing show. ABC should never have greenlit this premise. On FOX, sure, it might have worked there. And FOX could use a big, bold show this year because their whole lineup is a snooze.

For another example of what I mean, look at Elementary, which did well. People jumped all over it for stuff like a female Watson, but everything it was blasted for had a purpose behind it, namely, the CBS audience would like it. That kind of discipline is why CBS has been so successful.

The moral of the story is, networks have established audiences* and if they want their shows to succeed, they can't forget their core audience. The networks may have been interchangeable once, so that a show that would work on one would work on them all, but that is definitely not true anymore. Especially when they are shooting for an audience they don't have that is all watching something on a rival network at the same time.

A show's actual quality is beside the point. The quality that matters is: will this network's audience like it?

*Well except for NBC which is lucky to get anyone.
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Old September 28 2012, 09:24 PM   #63
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Thought it was pretty damn good. The action on the sub was really intense, and the idea of these guys being targeted by both the government and their own Navy is a really cool and compelling one (maybe one of the best since Lost).

Unfortunately the prospect of spending most of the series on this island isn't grabbing me as much. I'd rather see the crew constantly on the run (ala BSG), since that's when the episode was at it's most exciting. Plus it just feels like a more unique setting than yet another tropical island.

And all the constant cutting back to DC was a distraction too. I'd much rather keep whatever's going on there a mystery, and have the audience be as much in the dark as the crew is.
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Old September 29 2012, 09:50 PM   #64
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I really liked it, far more than I expected.

The hour started off rather badly as a low-budget 'Crimson Tide' knock-off, but once the actual drama started it got ALOT better.

Yes, there were many inaccuracies, I'm sure - but the show has balls. I just hope they can keep going and not chicken out on what they have started. Not every episode needs to be as good as this one or as action-filled, but there better be some repercussions to nuking Pakistan and the world-wide(?) announcement from the sub captain.
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Old September 30 2012, 09:51 AM   #65
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Re: Last Resort was Awesome.

I must have watched a different episode from most other people because I thought that was awful. Maybe it's because I'm in the Navy (granted not on a sub) but so much what I saw was incredibly un-Navy like. Throw in all of the implausibilities, both discussed in this thread already and those too long for me to bother listing, I found absolutely no appeal in this, which is a bloody shame because the show is set on a sub starring Andre Braugher and Robert Patrick. I won't be bothering with this anymore.
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Old September 30 2012, 11:31 AM   #66
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Re: Last Resort was Awesome.

I was initially turned off by the inaccuracies. Some of which I found glaring even knowing that there was no way that the Navy would provide any advice to a show about a sub turning on the U.S. even in the face of a possible coup.

Once I managed to try my best to ignore it or simply believe that the show is set X years from now after the Navy changed every policy in the books for no good raisin, I actually liked it a lot. Shame the ratings don't foretell a long future.

I will admit that I do think it possibly would have been better as a limited series with a fixed amount of time to take the story to its end.
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Old September 30 2012, 12:42 PM   #67
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Shame the ratings don't foretell a long future.
At least it will end in on a high note.
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Old September 30 2012, 08:26 PM   #68
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Re: Last Resort was Awesome.

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The idea of someone owning and wearing a "Fuck the Whales" t-shirt sent me into early morning hysterics. I had similar thoughts about the consequences of detonating that nuke.

Once you get past the implausible premise, it is an enjoyable show, and I'm definitely curious to see episode two. Love the Captain and the XO--I've been a fan of both actors since Homicide and Felicity, respectively, so it's fun to see them back on TV.
I had a friend who had a T-shirt that read: "Nuke the gay baby whales for Jesus."
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Old September 30 2012, 09:26 PM   #69
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Despite it being implausible and inaccurate I still enjoyed it mainly due to the acting and direction. I think it would've worked better as a 2 hour episode since it all seemed so rushed. To me this is like 24...you need to turn off the brain and just soak it in and enjoy the ride..and don't think about it much or the implausibilities and inaccuracies will drive you nuts.
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Old September 30 2012, 10:20 PM   #70
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Despite it being implausible and inaccurate I still enjoyed it mainly due to the acting and direction.
Yeah - I enjoyed it, and the implausibility of the plot didn't bother me (I mean, that is kind of the point of it being a story) - but they definitely should've had a naval consultant give it one more looking-over. The breaches of discipline and protocol were so glaring they pulled one right out of the story. I often had that problem with modern Trek, too.
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Old October 5 2012, 04:48 AM   #71
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Eh--I quickly lost interest in this series. It had a promising start with a solid pilot but this second episode reminded me why I was hesitant about the show to start with--Braugher is the only good and compelling actor on the show, the rest of the cast is bland esp the steroetypical female officer trying to prove herself to the crew and that annoying character that developed the Perseus system on the sub, and probably its biggest problem is yet another government conspiracy bogging it all down and the writers telling similar military stories I've seen before--internal dissent, crewmembers blind loyalty vs thoughtfulness etc.

This season of tv has been awful so far with the few new shows I've sampled being mediocre to awful(Revolution, Vegas, Last Resort, Park Avenue) and returning shows being tired(Supernatural and Fringe). I guess I'll have to wait a bit longer for something to possibly come along with the winter premieres of stuff like Cult.
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Old October 5 2012, 06:19 AM   #72
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Oh, the invisible helmet from Clash of the titans... I mean classic myth.

80s movies are already almost like classic myths.

The thing about the girl officer trying to prove herself... Look at well she hides being Australian.

So does the barmaid, but we're used to her passing.

After sleeping his way through 5 seasons of Felicity I am literally amazed by how COMPARATIVELY vibrant Scott Speedman is.
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Old October 5 2012, 03:13 PM   #73
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Re: Last Resort was Awesome.

The premiere was enough to bring me back for Week 2. Andre Braugher does his best with a character that really makes some odd decisions as the episode goes on. I'll give it the time to develop.
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Old October 5 2012, 04:43 PM   #74
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I'm really enjoying the show so far. A nicely audacious premise, with plenty of chewy subplots and character dynamics to play with. I wish it wasn't on at the same time as BIG BANG THEORY and VAMPIRE DIARIES, though. My DVR can only handle two shows at a time . . . .

(I may have to ditch VD and catch up with it on the reruns . . . .)
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Old October 5 2012, 05:09 PM   #75
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I thought last night's ep was excellent.
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