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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old September 4 2012, 07:09 PM   #1
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Captain Styles' Swagger Stick

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Swagger_stick

It has recently occurred to me that his "swagger stick" could have been intended to be something along the lines of the force lance carried by Commonwealth officers on Andromeda...

http://andromeda.wikia.com/wiki/Force_lance

... or, if not *intended* to be, then that there is still nothing in canon that would prevent someone from using it in a way similar to that in fan fiction or other further stories.

Thoughts?
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Old September 4 2012, 11:42 PM   #2
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Re: Captain Styles' Swagger Stick

I just thought he was a pompous ass who got off carrying a "scepter" like he was a friggin' king or something. It also reminded me of the "tension balls" that Capt. Queeg carried in The Caine Mutiny. Perhaps it was a real stress-related "security blanket" of some sort.

But some type of weapon makes sense, too. I've no problem with this idea.
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Old September 4 2012, 11:45 PM   #3
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Re: Captain Styles' Swagger Stick

It always reminds me of Captain Harris in Police Academy.

MOVE IT MOVE IT MOVE IT MOVE IT MOVE IT! MOVE IT!
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Old September 4 2012, 11:56 PM   #4
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My understanding is, and I don't remember where I got this but it was a universal translator. Due to the Excelsior having more non-human crew members... wonder if I got it from the novelization... hummm... It was along time ago!
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Old September 5 2012, 12:04 AM   #5
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Re: Captain Styles' Swagger Stick

if I remember correctly, one of the books had it something he took from a Klingon he had bested in hand to hand combat.
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Old September 5 2012, 04:05 AM   #6
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^ It certainly does not look Klingon.
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Old September 5 2012, 10:05 PM   #7
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Re: Captain Styles' Swagger Stick

I think it's a lot of this:
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I just thought he was a pompous ass
And maybe something like this or similar:
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My understanding is, and I don't remember where I got this but it was a universal translator.
I wonder if it was in the script or if Nimoy's choice.

I'm guessing Nimoy figured giving Styles a vitis would make him seem more of a "polished brass" type of officer (See: pompous ass) in contrast to the man of action, Kirk.

Or it could simply be a 23rd C. riding stick and Styles is an avid equestrian.
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Old September 5 2012, 10:46 PM   #8
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Re: Captain Styles' Swagger Stick

I always associated it with the riding crop General Patton liked to carry.
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Old September 5 2012, 11:38 PM   #9
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It reminded me of a reflex hammer.
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Old September 6 2012, 12:41 AM   #10
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Re: Captain Styles' Swagger Stick

Maybe it was just the stick he had up his ass all the time?
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Old September 6 2012, 01:18 AM   #11
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I always thought it was a pacing stick beloved of drill instructor types.
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Old September 6 2012, 08:27 PM   #12
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I vote for the pompous part and likely the equine as well.
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Old September 6 2012, 08:29 PM   #13
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UssGlenn wrote: View Post
if I remember correctly, one of the books had it something he took from a Klingon he had bested in hand to hand combat.
Did they REALLY have to go there?

Styles was the stereotype of the typical stiff, arrogant British officer. Carrying that stick around was part of that.
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Old September 6 2012, 08:29 PM   #14
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UssGlenn wrote: View Post
if I remember correctly, one of the books had it something he took from a Klingon he had bested in hand to hand combat.
Prime Directive...he was an LT then. Scotty smashed it!
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Old September 7 2012, 12:38 PM   #15
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I agree that it was just a way to show his as a by-the-book arrogant jack-a**. Someone we don't have to like since he acts so uppity about himself and his ship.

I do like the reference to Captain Harris too. "Lets go to warp. MOVE IT! MOVE IT!"
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