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Old September 9 2012, 04:52 PM   #46
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Re: What's the difference between a trekkie and a trekker?

When I was made fun of growing up for liking Star Trek, it was for liking Star Trek. The name "trekkie" had nothing to do with it.

And, if I had said, "No, you don't understand: I'm not a trekkie; I'm a trekker," it would have only made them laugh all the harder, predictably, as others have pointed out already.
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Old September 12 2012, 11:08 AM   #47
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Re: What's the difference between a trekkie and a trekker?

I'm trying to remember if I've ever heard the term "Trekker" in conversation at all, and I cannot recall ever hearing the term. I would think that the differences in the use of the words come more in context and depend on the person saying it than which word is chosen.
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Old September 12 2012, 03:36 PM   #48
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Re: What's the difference between a trekkie and a trekker?

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AFAIC, the "Trekkie" has always been a more juvenile distinction from "Trekker" (like a fan who just loves it, versus a fan who is more serious). But, if someone calls me either one, I don't really mind.

That's what "trekkers" tried to tell themselves, to look down on other fans as somehow more nerdy or fanatic about it, but it's a fake distinction made after the fact.

As others have pointed out, "trekker" was just invented because the term "trekkie" had come to have a negative connotation. Kind of sad that fans didn't just decide to stick with the original term and own it.
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Old September 13 2012, 01:38 PM   #49
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Kind of sad that fans didn't just decide to stick with the original term and own it.
I did. I'm a Trekkie and I'm proud.
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Old September 13 2012, 10:46 PM   #50
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Re: What's the difference between a trekkie and a trekker?

'Trekkers' are what 'Trekkers' think 'Trekkies' are.
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Old September 13 2012, 11:52 PM   #51
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Re: What's the difference between a trekkie and a trekker?

I didn't hear the Term Trekker till I got online I am a Trekkie Proud!!!
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Old September 14 2012, 04:09 AM   #52
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Re: What's the difference between a trekkie and a trekker?

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Trekkies laugh at this...

Trekkers are FURIOUS
(although at the video or JJ Abrams for making the movie I'm not sure!)
THIS x 10. I love that video AND Shatner's Get a Life skit from 1986.

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Old September 14 2012, 04:13 AM   #53
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As others have pointed out, "trekker" was just invented because the term "trekkie" had come to have a negative connotation. Kind of sad that fans didn't just decide to stick with the original term and own it.
QFT, and one of the main reasons I'd rather be called a Trekkie.

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Old June 25 2015, 04:26 AM   #54
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When TNG came along, many people felt like me and coined the term Trekker.
This is incorrect.

The term trekker dates from 1970, and it is evidently due to Carol Pruitt. From Boldly Writing: A Trekker Fan & Zine History, 1967-1987, by Joan Marie Verba, page 4:
The May issue of Deck 6 [issue #8, in 1970] saw a very early distinction between the terms "trekkie" and "trekker." Carol Pruitt, the editor, said in part, "...when I start acting like a bubbleheaded trekkie (rather than a sober, dignified—albeit enthusiastic—trekker)." (Some fans think the distinction between the terms is a more recent phenomenon, but Deck 6 shows that fans were making that distinction over 30 years ago.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trekkie...ie_vs._Trekker
http://www.jessesword.com/sf/view/201
http://fanlore.org/wiki/Deck_6
You're absolutely correct about "trekker" predating TNG by a good many years. But I did not invent either of those words, I merely used them in my newszine DECK 6, thus inadvertently establishing them as already current in 1970. As a matter of fact, Linda Stanley explained "trekker" and "trekkie" to me at St. Louiscon in 1969 (though she didn't claim to have coined them either).

At that time, old-line SF fans were seeing their cons "invaded" by hordes of Trek fans, to many of whom SF was synonymous with Trek. It was my impression that "trekkie" was their derogatory word for us, and "trekker" was our attempt to salvage some dignity. That's probably an oversimplification, though, because both words predate my involvement in organized fandom.
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Old June 25 2015, 06:32 AM   #55
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Re: What's the difference between a trekkie and a trekker?

Carol Pruitt wrote: View Post
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When TNG came along, many people felt like me and coined the term Trekker.
This is incorrect.

The term trekker dates from 1970, and it is evidently due to Carol Pruitt. From Boldly Writing: A Trekker Fan & Zine History, 1967-1987, by Joan Marie Verba, page 4:
The May issue of Deck 6 [issue #8, in 1970] saw a very early distinction between the terms "trekkie" and "trekker." Carol Pruitt, the editor, said in part, "...when I start acting like a bubbleheaded trekkie (rather than a sober, dignified—albeit enthusiastic—trekker)." (Some fans think the distinction between the terms is a more recent phenomenon, but Deck 6 shows that fans were making that distinction over 30 years ago.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trekkie...ie_vs._Trekker
http://www.jessesword.com/sf/view/201
http://fanlore.org/wiki/Deck_6
You're absolutely correct about "trekker" predating TNG by a good many years. But I did not invent either of those words, I merely used them in my newszine DECK 6, thus inadvertently establishing them as already current in 1970. As a matter of fact, Linda Stanley explained "trekker" and "trekkie" to me at St. Louiscon in 1969 (though she didn't claim to have coined them either).

At that time, old-line SF fans were seeing their cons "invaded" by hordes of Trek fans, to many of whom SF was synonymous with Trek. It was my impression that "trekkie" was their derogatory word for us, and "trekker" was our attempt to salvage some dignity. That's probably an oversimplification, though, because both words predate my involvement in organized fandom.
Thank you for the correction, Carol Pruitt. And welcome to the board!
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Old June 25 2015, 06:40 AM   #56
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Re: What's the difference between a trekkie and a trekker?

Trekkers do woodsie-outdoorsie stuff

Trekkies do cool outer space stuff

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Trekkers.

It is just that "Trekkers" are not Star Trek fans.

"Trekkies" are.
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Old June 25 2015, 08:08 AM   #57
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Re: What's the difference between a trekkie and a trekker?

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Trekkies are fans.
Trekkers are people who are ashamed of star trek.
I was going to say something like that. The term Trekker is a judgemental reaction to the term "Trekkie". As though using a different word can give your fannishness some middle-class respectability. In fact, the opposite is the case.

Consider:
"I'm going to see the new Star Trek movie tonight."
"Oh, are you a Trekkie?"
"Yep, I'm a big fan."
Versus:
"I'm going to see the new Star Trek movie tonight."
"Oh, are you a Trekkie?"
"No, I'm a Trekker."
"Um, what?"
"You see, a Trekkie is a childish person while a Trekker is a mature fan. The Trekkie is passive while the Trekker is on the journey. Please don't call me a Trekkie; Trekker is the term preferred by serious people."
"[speechless]"

I would just call myself a fan. The two Trek-words imply a level of monomania that doesn't apply to me. I say this without judgement!
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Old June 25 2015, 02:13 PM   #58
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Re: What's the difference between a trekkie and a trekker?

Bizarrely, a relative actually asked me if I was a "Trekker" this weekend. I was surprised that he'd even heard the term, which I didn't think was used outside fannish circles.

I explained to him that there was really no difference between "Trekkie" and "Trekker"--although some people did have strong feelings on the subject.
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Old June 25 2015, 02:35 PM   #59
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An 'i' and an 'r.'
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Old June 26 2015, 02:19 AM   #60
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Bizarrely, a relative actually asked me if I was a "Trekker" this weekend. I was surprised that he'd even heard the term, which I didn't think was used outside fannish circles.
My parents are "trekkers" - they have a weekly hiking group.
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