Season TWO OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread - Page 69

Harvey · November 29 2012, 10:10 PM

Seems like a silly reason for mistrusting reviewers. The audio issues were only on certain audio tracks, and only on a few episodes. That's an easy thing to miss when you're trying to evaluate a 26-episode release on deadline.

BillJ · November 29 2012, 10:24 PM

Harvey wrote:

Seems like a silly reason for mistrusting reviewers. The audio issues were only on certain audio tracks, and only on a few episodes. That's an easy thing to miss when you're trying to evaluate a 26-episode release on deadline.

It's not just this Trek release. I can't count the number of times I've bought a high-profile video game that got 9/10 on the review that turned out to be buggy pieces of shit.

Better to trust people that aren't counting on relationships with the companies producing the material and drawing site traffic.

Harvey · November 29 2012, 10:39 PM

Many video game review sites are in bed with the industry, but not all of them are. I've always liked Game Revolution, for example. They tend to be pretty fair, and rarely give out the highest marks.

jimbotron · November 29 2012, 11:10 PM

I forwarded my concerns to Bill Hunt at The Digital Bits, and I just received this reply:

Yeah, I’m aware of the issues. Thankfully, CBS isn’t making this mistake again. It’s certainly an issue, but my feeling is that the damage could have been worse. And as I said, at least CBS learned their lesson. They aren’t outsourcing anymore.

Bill

Bill Hunt, Editor
The Digital Bits.com
billhunt@thedigitalbits.com

Harvey · November 29 2012, 11:15 PM

Kind of cryptic. Does that mean HDV-Illuminate won't be working on further seasons?

davejames · November 29 2012, 11:16 PM

Well THAT's certainly interesting. Has he heard something from CBS that we haven't?

jimbotron · November 29 2012, 11:23 PM

I sent a followup mail for clarification. Maybe CBS will be announcing something soon.

NewHorizon · November 29 2012, 11:24 PM

davejames wrote:

Well THAT's certainly interesting. Has he heard something from CBS that we haven't?

Lets hope to hell he has heard something from them.

No more outsourcing CBS...but also, don't work CBS-Digital to the bone. Give them more time to do the job right.

jimbotron · November 29 2012, 11:28 PM

NewHorizon wrote:

No more outsourcing CBS...but also, don't work CBS-Digital to the bone. Give them more time to do the job right.

Proper time or not, I'd rather watch the results of CBS-D rushing than HTV rushing.

throwback · November 29 2012, 11:29 PM

About people learning their lessons - if this is true, that CBS has planned against HTV Illuminate doing the other seasons, then this will be another strike against this company. ST:TNG is a marquee name, and doing it successfully would I believe restore of the reputation that HTV Illuminate claimed it had.

The question I have is this, if, we as fans, are able to find as much as we did, and that is by doing web search, why didn't CBS do the same and vet this company before assigning them the work? Certainly, there had to be other restoration companies in Hollywood that have better track records.

NewHorizon · November 29 2012, 11:34 PM

throwback wrote:

The question I have is this, if, we as fans, are able to find as much as we did, and that is by doing web search, why didn't CBS do the same and vet this company before assigning them the work? Certainly, there had to be other restoration companies in Hollywood that have better track records.

The awards and acknowledgments on HTV's page says it all.

http://www.htvinc.com/content/conten...out-htv&hx=553

davejames · November 29 2012, 11:42 PM

jimbotron wrote:

Few, if any, know about HTV or the lower quality visual effects. It's up to the fans to let the reviewers know something is wrong.

I was actually curious about that. I did a google search earlier to see who else was talking about TNG and HTV, but other than here, Trekcore, and a little bit on Blu-ray.com, I didn't really see anything.

Am I missing something?? I always assumed this was just one of dozens (if not hundreds) of Trek forums out there, but now it's kinda looking like the only one. That can't be right, can it?

jimbotron · November 29 2012, 11:45 PM

Their credits list is a Who's-Who of failed masters. The Phantom Menace, for example.

http://project-blu.com/review.php?titleid=516

jimbotron · November 29 2012, 11:46 PM

davejames wrote:

I was actually curious about that. I did a google search earlier to see who else was talking about TNG and HTV, but other than here, Trekcore, and a little bit on Blu-ray.com, I didn't really see anything.

Am I missing something?? I always assumed this was just one of dozens (if not hundreds) of Trek forums out there, but now it's kinda looking like the only one. That can't be right, can it?

AVSForum has picked up on it too.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1269677/st...n-blu-ray/2160

Beta-Z · November 29 2012, 11:47 PM

davejames wrote:

Am I missing something?? I always assumed this was just one of dozens (if not hundreds) of Trek forums out there, but now it's kinda looking like the only one. That can't be right, can it?

Over here in Germany it's been heavily discussed as well.

November 29 2012, 10:10 PM	#1021
Harvey Admiral	Re: Season TWO OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread Seems like a silly reason for mistrusting reviewers. The audio issues were only on certain audio tracks, and only on a few episodes. That's an easy thing to miss when you're trying to evaluate a 26-episode release on deadline. __________________ "What do you hear, Starbuck?" "Nothing but the rain, sir." "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat."

November 29 2012, 10:39 PM	#1023
Harvey Admiral	Re: Season TWO OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread Many video game review sites are in bed with the industry, but not all of them are. I've always liked Game Revolution, for example. They tend to be pretty fair, and rarely give out the highest marks. __________________ "What do you hear, Starbuck?" "Nothing but the rain, sir." "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat."

November 29 2012, 11:15 PM	#1025
Harvey Admiral	Re: Season TWO OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread Kind of cryptic. Does that mean HDV-Illuminate won't be working on further seasons? __________________ "What do you hear, Starbuck?" "Nothing but the rain, sir." "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat."

November 29 2012, 11:16 PM	#1026
davejames Vice Admiral Location: Sac, Ca	Re: Season TWO OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread Well THAT's certainly interesting. Has he heard something from CBS that we haven't?

November 29 2012, 11:23 PM	#1027
jimbotron Commander Location: Bay Area, CA	Re: Season TWO OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread I sent a followup mail for clarification. Maybe CBS will be announcing something soon.

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November 29 2012, 11:29 PM	#1030
throwback Captain	Re: Season TWO OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread About people learning their lessons - if this is true, that CBS has planned against HTV Illuminate doing the other seasons, then this will be another strike against this company. ST:TNG is a marquee name, and doing it successfully would I believe restore of the reputation that HTV Illuminate claimed it had. The question I have is this, if, we as fans, are able to find as much as we did, and that is by doing web search, why didn't CBS do the same and vet this company before assigning them the work? Certainly, there had to be other restoration companies in Hollywood that have better track records.

November 29 2012, 11:45 PM	#1033
jimbotron Commander Location: Bay Area, CA	Re: Season TWO OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread Their credits list is a Who's-Who of failed masters. The Phantom Menace, for example. http://project-blu.com/review.php?titleid=516