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Old August 17 2014, 02:15 PM   #2146
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Well I finally found some time to watch a few S2 episodes last night. I watched The Schizoid Man first and this is the first episode where I really noticed just how bad a job HTV did. There's a scene between Data and Graves where they cut back and forth between the two that is just awful. When the shot is on Data there is a lot of film grain but when they cut to Graves it is DNRed all to hell. I can only assume it is because of the computer graphics F/X they needed to add and that they couldn't be bothered to try and add grain to match.

The planets were equally disappointing. I am really glad that they didn't get any more work after this season.
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Old August 18 2014, 06:39 AM   #2147
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Are you sure it was DNRed? I don't have the season set, so I can't comment on the shot in question, but ias it possible one of the shots actually was grainier than the other? There's a shot in one of the Alien Nation movies which cuts back and forth from Sikes behind the wheel of his car to George in the passenger seat. The mismatch in film grain was really evident. Kenneth Johnson even mentioned how bad it was during the DVD commentary. One shot was nothing but grain, the other clean.
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Old August 18 2014, 07:16 AM   #2148
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It's not DNR, it's just inconsistent grain. That happens all through the season. The ones with bad DNR are ones like Measure of a Man (conference room with Maddox) and The Dauphin (when the girl beams out as a pillar of light).
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Old August 18 2014, 11:50 AM   #2149
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The scene where Data talks to a sitting Graves does mismatch pretty badly from what I recall...the footage of Graves is very soft (even the focus) compared to the Data shots.
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Old August 18 2014, 11:54 PM   #2150
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Yeah, it's all down to the what was on the original negative. They were working with very grainy film stock that had a short lifespan.
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Old August 19 2014, 07:36 PM   #2151
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In the shots with Graves there is an animated computer terminal in the background which is what led me to believe DNR was used as I seem to recall that a common complaint about HTV was that they used a lot of DNR when they added F/X to a live action shot.
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Old August 19 2014, 07:50 PM   #2152
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In the shots with Graves there is an animated computer terminal in the background which is what led me to believe DNR was used as I seem to recall that a common complaint about HTV was that they used a lot of DNR when they added F/X to a live action shot.
That appears to have been on-set, and not an added element.

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Old September 12 2014, 06:02 AM   #2153
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Now that I'm up to date with TNG on Blu Ray (Leaving Descent till I get season 7), I've gone back to listen to the audio commentaries. There was some great stuff in Season 2, but man I kind of wish they would stop interviewing Dan Curry. I find him somewhat boring and it made for the Q Who commentary (Which should have been very interesting) into something very mundane. I did like that they talked to Rob Bowman, especailly after I've just seen the entire X Files series and he was significantly involved in that. As for the commentary for Measure of a Man, Snodgrass was very interesting. I loved that they included the commentary on the extended edition because she had some really great stuff to tell, especially her thoughts on TNG compared to Star Trek.

If there is a missed opportunity to these sets, it was the lack of extended episodes. For example, I just saw Rightful Heir and there were so many deleted scenes in that episode. They should have just reinserted those deleted scenes and made it another extended edition. That's why you have a format like blu ray. It isn't just putting the series into HD, even though that's really important, it's putting all that other stuff back into it and really going Behind the scenes of the show or movie.
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Old October 3 2014, 04:02 PM   #2154
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Amazon UK - Season 2 - £17.00 GBP (approx. 27.00 USD, excl. shipping - region-free!)

As reported by Trekcore, many Star Trek blu-ray sets are currently reduced on Amazon.co.uk. I have no idea if this is temporary or permanent, but I thought it worth sharing.
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Old October 3 2014, 09:21 PM   #2155
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Are you on commission?
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Old October 4 2014, 12:00 AM   #2156
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No, but I'm open to offers!
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