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Old June 12 2014, 03:54 PM   #1036
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Re: Last Classic Who Story you watched

Just finished "The Daemons" last night and found it rather ridiculous, verging on parody. The TV reporter in the first episode seemed to be doing his best Eric Idle impression and many of the other characters and set pieces seemed to be straight out of Monty Python (the tall, horsey "witch"; the squire; the Morris dancers). Jo was a bigger idiot than usual (noted even by Mike Yates), the Brig veered between dense and supportive, the UNIT men were hapless. Even Pertwee seemed to be camping it up.

I prefer Who when it shows a bit of humor but this story went too far for me. At least I finally got to hear the Brig say, "Chap with wings, five rounds rapid."
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Old June 12 2014, 04:17 PM   #1037
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The story-which came out in the early 70s-actually is older than the Python TV series, which came out in the mid 70s when Tom Baker was the Doctor.

IMO the story sort of suffers a bit from the picture quality of all but one episode (due to the original film/video being lost I think or destroyed). Even the restoration team on the DVD weren't able to really 'fix' the story.
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Old June 12 2014, 07:40 PM   #1038
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Sorry, but Python went out 1969 to 1974. The Daemons was made and shown in the gap between seasons two and three.
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Old June 12 2014, 10:35 PM   #1039
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oops! Got the date mixed up with Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Sorry.

The Daemons seems to have had some influence on later stories, most notably The Awakening.
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Old June 13 2014, 02:15 AM   #1040
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Thanks, Diankra. You beat me to it.
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Old June 13 2014, 02:44 PM   #1041
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I just watched The Mind Robber last night and I really enjoyed it. Liked the fantasy element and the story is off-beat, unique, and weird.

After finishing nuWho, I've been watching Classic Who, focusing right now on the Hartnell and Troughton eras.
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Old June 13 2014, 03:58 PM   #1042
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I just watched The Mind Robber last night and I really enjoyed it. Liked the fantasy element and the story is off-beat, unique, and weird.

After finishing nuWho, I've been watching Classic Who, focusing right now on the Hartnell and Troughton eras.
Yea, I've got less than a half season left of TNG, and then I am going to take a second run through Troughton (Seen a few of them more than once, but, many of them I've seen on the one time)
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Old June 16 2014, 07:20 PM   #1043
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The Dalek Invasion of Earth was a pretty good serial. The story and setting were interesting, the sets were decent, and there was some great stuff with the Daleks, including a Dalek coming out from the water and various Daleks wandering around London. The robomen kind of reminded me of when the NuWho Cybermen took over people by using ear implants instead of outright transforming them. The speech at the end was very memorable, and it was interesting to see it in context. Overall, this was an enjoyable 1st Doctor adventure. Next up, since I got the DVD, will be the 2nd Doctor serial The Mind Robbers.
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Old June 16 2014, 08:21 PM   #1044
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The Dalek Invasion of Earth was a pretty good serial. The story and setting were interesting, the sets were decent, and there was some great stuff with the Daleks, including a Dalek coming out from the water and various Daleks wandering around London. The robomen kind of reminded me of when the NuWho Cybermen took over people by using ear implants instead of outright transforming them. The speech at the end was very memorable, and it was interesting to see it in context. Overall, this was an enjoyable 1st Doctor adventure.
Also check out the Cushing Theatrical Remake Dalek Invasion of Earth 2150 (Bernard Cribbins - Donna's Grandpa Wilf - plays a cop who ends up as a Companion for the Movie). Susan is much more age appropriate to the way she is written (IE: She's much younger), and it's in Glorious Vivid Color. A Number of differences, but, also quite similar to the Hartnell Serial.

If you don't find it on Netflix or wherever you're watching from, you can probably find it streaming on Youtube or Dailymotion
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Old June 16 2014, 08:26 PM   #1045
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I'm not sure about the Cushing movies. I've heard mostly horrible stuff about them. I may get to them eventually, though.
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Old June 16 2014, 08:33 PM   #1046
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I'm not sure about the Cushing movies. I've heard mostly horrible stuff about them. I may get to them eventually, though.
Really? That's the first time I recall hearing anything negative about them?

He's not an Alien, he's a Scientist named Doctor Who and Susan is younger (Though, she's mostly written as a 10 year old in the Series anyways, so, IMHO, that's actually better), but, I'm not sure what else anyone might find objectionable about them, other than they aren't Teh Canon!!
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Old June 16 2014, 08:48 PM   #1047
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I just finished the Castrovalva Story. It was interesting, and yet, I think that if remastered, it could be so much better.. taking into account the master's TARDIS and the crazy stuff that went on there with the event one drama..the zero room levitation could be redone using today's CGI to enhance it..but overall, not a bad story per say.. it is just the Master had just left logopolis, and here we start off picking up after that. really it does fit nicely if you watch the two back to back.
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Old June 16 2014, 08:51 PM   #1048
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I'm not sure about the Cushing movies. I've heard mostly horrible stuff about them. I may get to them eventually, though.
I wouldn't say they're horrible. At the very least, they're an interesting curio. I would strongly recommend you at least check out one of them.

Let's face it, Peter Cushing was bloody awesome in anything!
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Old June 16 2014, 09:20 PM   #1049
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The Dalek design in the movies sort of influenced the new Dalek design-the bigger, 'jam jar' "ears", and the colorful look of the controversial "new Paradigm" Daleks. The impression of the police box doors on the interior of the TARDIS also might've been inspired by the films.

You'll also spot some familiar faces in the films. Bernard Cribbins (Later as Wilf in the Tennant era) plays one of the companions in the second film (an original character who is a replacement of sorts for Ian). Phillip Madoc who had a large number of Who roles (Although probably most famously Dr.Solon in Brain of Morbius) plays a bad guy.
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Old June 16 2014, 10:58 PM   #1050
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Well, maybe when I've seen every avaliable story, story recon (which at my rate will be sometime around 2150 ) I might watch the Cushing movies. Honestly I don't see any reason to rewatch the same story I just saw, but with a bunch of annoying elements in it. Plus, I might just break any TV that shows a story about a mad professor named Doctor Who flying a home made time machine.

From the bit I've read it also seems a good deal more kid friendly (with one review saying Cribbins is annoying comedy relief) and that seems like it would really annoy me. While the original serial is technically a kid's show, it took itself pretty seriously and didn't hold back on people dying and having the whole thing be a bad situation for the world. I really don't need to see the situation turned into some kiddie adventure starring a human scientist who apparently doesn't resemble the character of The Doctor in the slightest. Its just a generic 60s sci fi movie with Daleks, so unless I am literally dying to see anything even marginally related to the Doctor Who franchise, I don't think I'll be wasting my time on the Cushing movies.

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I'm not sure about the Cushing movies. I've heard mostly horrible stuff about them. I may get to them eventually, though.
I wouldn't say they're horrible. At the very least, they're an interesting curio. I would strongly recommend you at least check out one of them.

Let's face it, Peter Cushing was bloody awesome in anything!
Most reviews I've read say that Cushing put in zero effort for the movies. I don't personally care about Cushing anyway (he was decent as Tarkin, but that's the only thing I've ever seen him do), and seeing a Cushing that couldn't care less put on a performance as a goofy, human scientist with no connection to The Doctor really doesn't make me want to see these movies. The only good fake Doctor is Rowan atkinson

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