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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

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Old October 21 2013, 05:41 PM   #646
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Watched Spearhead From Space over the weekend. This was an excellent introduction for Jon Pertwee, who shone. Funny and commanding at once. Though it was really odd seeing The Doctor going for a shower and funnier still seeing Pertwee's tattoo in his forearm. Ex-military, perhaps? Surprised they didn't cover it with make-up. And the Doctor stole his outfit?!

This episode looked gorgeous, again, far from the stereotype of a cheapo DW serial. Combination of it being in colour, shot on film and entirely on location (no studio filming according to IMDB). The Autons, who I'd only seen in Rose, Eccleston's debut, were well-realised for the time though the rubber-tentacled monster at the end less so.

And that's where the John Smith alias came from!!!
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Old October 22 2013, 02:09 PM   #647
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And that's where the John Smith alias came from!!!
It comes from Troughton's The Wheel in Space, and is given to the Doctor by Jamie after he sees it as a brand name on a metal container, although The Vampires of Venice establishes that he was using it on Earth before An Unearthly Child, if you look closely at the first Doctor's library card...
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Old October 22 2013, 02:29 PM   #648
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And that's where the John Smith alias came from!!!
It comes from Troughton's The Wheel in Space, and is given to the Doctor by Jamie after he sees it as a brand name.
Which, btw, opens up the interesting question of when Jamie learnt to read; clearly he can in Wheel in Space, and he definitely can (though rather hesitantly) in The Mind Robber, but he can't in some of his earliest stories - The Faceless Ones in particular, I think.
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Old October 22 2013, 02:43 PM   #649
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Well if the Tardis can make you read other languages, then it might follow that it might allow you to read English if you didn't already know how to read it?
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Old October 22 2013, 03:09 PM   #650
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And the Doctor stole his outfit?!
And did again, in pretty similar circumstances in The Eleventh Hour!!
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Old October 22 2013, 04:57 PM   #651
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And that's where the John Smith alias came from!!!
It comes from Troughton's The Wheel in Space, and is given to the Doctor by Jamie after he sees it as a brand name on a metal container, although The Vampires of Venice establishes that he was using it on Earth before An Unearthly Child, if you look closely at the first Doctor's library card...
Ah, I stand corrected. I thought the VOV one was a retcon but I'm sadly deficient in my knowledge of the Troughton era.
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Old October 22 2013, 08:16 PM   #652
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The Doctor also uses it in The War Games, now I come to think of it. Though it's Germanised in Dr Johann Schmitt at one point.
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Old October 22 2013, 09:54 PM   #653
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Watched Spearhead From Space over the weekend. This was an excellent introduction for Jon Pertwee, who shone. Funny and commanding at once. Though it was really odd seeing The Doctor going for a shower and funnier still seeing Pertwee's tattoo in his forearm. Ex-military, perhaps? Surprised they didn't cover it with make-up. And the Doctor stole his outfit?!
Well, it was either that or he'd have to walk up to someone and say, "I say, old chap, do you mind giving me your clothes? I'm trying to escape!"

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And that's where the John Smith alias came from!!!
It comes from Troughton's The Wheel in Space, and is given to the Doctor by Jamie after he sees it as a brand name.
Which, btw, opens up the interesting question of when Jamie learnt to read; clearly he can in Wheel in Space, and he definitely can (though rather hesitantly) in The Mind Robber, but he can't in some of his earliest stories - The Faceless Ones in particular, I think.
There's a scene in The Masque of Mandragora (Tom Baker era) where the Doctor reminds Sarah Jane that because she travels in the TARDIS with him, one of the perks is the gift of languages. She'd wondered how it was she could understand and speak Italian, so it's not hard to imagine that this perk could also extend to reading... or maybe there's a teaching machine somewhere in the back of one of the TARDIS' closets!
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Old October 22 2013, 10:10 PM   #654
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Slightly different issue though... the point is that initially Jamie couln't read at all, not that he couln't read other languages ( would hos native language be English or Gaelic, I wonder)
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Old October 23 2013, 12:34 AM   #655
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Slightly different issue though... the point is that initially Jamie couln't read at all, not that he couln't read other languages ( would hos native language be English or Gaelic, I wonder)
That's why I wondered if there might have been a teaching gizmo somewhere in the TARDIS. I'm sure the Doctor and the other Companions (Polly and Ben were also Companions when Jamie joined) would have encouraged him to learn to read.

As for his native language, it would be whatever was current at the time of the Battle of Culloden (1746, if I recall correctly).
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Old October 23 2013, 12:54 AM   #656
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Mark Gatiss' s book The Roundheads does indeed show Polly trying to teach himto read. Onscreen an argument against the teaching machine is that we later see Leela learning her alphabet (and a mindchanging device is the sort of thing the Doctor, particularly Troughton, tends to hate...)
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Old October 23 2013, 01:30 AM   #657
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And the Doctor stole his outfit?!
And did again, in pretty similar circumstances in The Eleventh Hour!!
The Eleventh Hour was the third time it happened, the newly regenerated eighth Doctor also took his clothes from a hospital.
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Old October 23 2013, 01:34 AM   #658
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The Ice Warriors was the lst one I saw and the animation wasn't as offputting as it in The Reign Of Terror. It's kind of a cheap story even for Doctor Who, there's few sets and few walking scenes. But I did like Victory's "Somebody help me." coming out as a song.
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Old October 23 2013, 08:07 AM   #659
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And the Doctor stole his outfit?!
And did again, in pretty similar circumstances in The Eleventh Hour!!
The Eleventh Hour was the third time it happened, the newly regenerated eighth Doctor also took his clothes from a hospital.
Indeed. Maybe one should keep a close-eye on one's possessions when in a hospital where the Doctor turns up.

And in keeping with the thread, recently finished Paradise Towers and The Greatest Show in the Galaxy, completing the full Seventh Doctor run.
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Old October 23 2013, 08:31 AM   #660
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With the exception of that dumb thing in the pool, I enjoyed Paradise Towers. It was fun seeing some of my favorite Britcom actors in other roles.
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