Castle Season 5 (including Spoilers)

[Admiral_Young]

I'm so behind. I've been sick and busy and have missed I think four episodes, including the last two. I have to catch up!

[cardinal biggles]

Kirby wrote:

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Christopher makes a lot of good points, and they could have done the whole documentary thing a lot better, but I enjoyed it for what it was, an excuse for the main cast to goof around with the camera.

Exactly. As a "documentary episode," it gets pretty poor marks for all the technical stuff he laid out above. (Maybe I'm wrong, but I still think the gold standard was that live episode of ER.) But it was so fun watching everyone go at the fourth wall with a battering ram, it's easy to forgive the episode's shortcomings.

[FPAlpha]

Yeah well.. not exactly their best episode.

At one point it got tiring of some characters who got so camera focused.. especially Esposito was a bit annoying and came off as very childish.

The idea is nice but somehow it didn't fire that well in Castle.. bits and pieces were funny and a nice way to get some angst into the episode when the camera caught Castle and Beckett in a personal moment which threatened to expose them to Gates.

Other than that the weakest episode of the season this far.. watchable but not in the same league as the other episodes so far.. however that's a pretty good cut i think.. 1 mediocre episode out of 7.

Really liked the jam session at the end though and Beckett's prank.

[Aragorn]

There was nothing remotely documentary-style about this last episode. Other than the mugging for the camera, they basically shot it like an episode of NYPD Blue.

[TheSeeker]

I thought that all the competing for camera time was very out of character for everyone except Castle. I would have expected them all to treat the cameras the way Beckett did. And even Beckett had a few moments where she seemed to be playing it up a bit.

Still, it had its moments and I enjoyed it for the most part. I'm just glad we don't have episodes like this all the time.

[SAndrews10]

As someone said on another board another case and point for network shows to only be 13 episode seasons. Though I wouldn't go to that extreme.

[cardinal biggles]

And even 13-episode seasons don't guarantee that all 13 are quality episodes. Inevitably there's one episode in each season of Doctor Who that disappoints, and occasionally outright sucks.

[Admiral_Young]

Having not watched the episode but reading your guys descriptions of it...this sounds like your typical filler episode frankly.

[PKerr]

I love the show but I'm 10 minutes into this episode and I'm already to turn it off.

Here's a suggestion Hollywood, save the documentation style camera work for actual documentaries and leave it out of out our movies and T.V. shows because it sucks.

[Christopher]

^The problem isn't that it was supposedly documentary-style -- the problem is that it was so completely unconvincing as a simulation of documentary footage. Also that it was unconvincing that the filmmakers would really be allowed such unrestricted access to a police investigation in progress.

[TheSeeker]

SAndrews10 wrote:

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As someone said on another board another case and point for network shows to only be 13 episode seasons. Though I wouldn't go to that extreme.

I think the problem with doing just 12 or 13 episodes of Castle a season is that it would get a bit too serious and we wouldn't get a chance to see fun episodes like the sci-fi convention.

[Greg Cox]

Christopher wrote:

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Also that it was unconvincing that the filmmakers would really be allowed such unrestricted access to a police investigation in progress.

Then again, this is the same police deparment that has allowed a wise-cracking mystery writer unrestricted access to police investigations for four years now . . . .

[CaptainDonovin]

Christopher wrote:

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I totally missed that that was Shatner's voice. I guess I was trying to ignore the song because it was so weird and distracting from the scene.

The names of the Nebula 9 characters sounded very familiar, didn't they? Max Renard/Mal Reynolds, Chloe/Zoe, Kreavers/Reavers. And Oracle seemed to be a woman in a cryogenic chamber, reflecting how River (something of an oracular character herself) was introduced. Although I wonder if there was a nod to Blake's 7's ORAC there as well.

Okay, you know what? Castle has made a name for itself by bringing its in-universe works of fiction into reality as tie-ins, with the Nikki Heat novels and Derrick Storm comics. So what they should do now is produce a full 12 direct-to-video episodes of Nebula 9, starring Ed Quinn and Christina Moore (the "original cast" members from the episode). It was supposed to be a cheesy-looking show, so they wouldn't have to put too much money into it.

At the very least, they should do a Nebula 9 comic tie-in. I'm genuinely curious about the show's premise and characters.

Sorry I'm late to this discussion, keep forgetting to check this thread. I loved this episode, really a fun one. I caught most of the references (was kind of hoping for a nod to B5 or Farscape) & Shatner's voice @ the end was a good way to close it.

Love the direct to video idea for Nebula-9. I'm ready for it too, just got two Nebula-9 T-shirts from the ABC online store.

[TimmyWl]

I wanted to say that I kept on laughing at "After Hours". It was totally not about the murder about the priest although I missed the first part of the episode. The whole cliche of the witness being the hit man seemed kind of worn out. Castle and Beckett keep on ragging at each other and it is very enjoyable.

I thought the best part was the end when Castle realizes that his mother is quite friendly with Beckett's father and his reaction to that.

[Kirby]

I didn't like this episode. The constant bickering, the fact that they didn't have police out in force to look for Castle, Beckett, and that guy. Worst of all was the simple fact that you can make an emergency call on a locked iPhone.
I liked the part with the parents, but I really hope they don't get those two together.