Castle Season 5 (including Spoilers)

[Christopher]

Count von Count wrote:

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That's kind of what I thought, too — especially "scruffier" Ford in Star Wars.

Whereas I thought he was cast for his striking resemblance to Fillion -- and the actress who played the "Fan Experience" version of Lt. Chloe in the beginning looked strikingly like Katic.

[TheSeeker]

Christopher wrote:

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So what they should do now is produce a full 12 direct-to-video episodes of Nebula 9, starring Ed Quinn and Christina Moore (the "original cast" members from the episode). It was supposed to be a cheesy-looking show, so they wouldn't have to put too much money into it.

At the very least, they should do a Nebula 9 comic tie-in. I'm genuinely curious about the show's premise and characters.

I think you've just found your next project. Start turning in some spec scripts!

[intrinsical]

Count von Count wrote:

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They've made Firefly references before, but never use the series name.

My question was more on why drop names like Star Trek, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, Lord of the Rings but not Firefly? Were the producers worried the audience wouldn't know what a Firefly is?

[Kestrel]

Dropping Firefly directly would've been way too obvious though. I like how they got two subtle references in within a minute. Nebula 9 was a cult TV show that only got thirteen episodes but has a dedicated following, and when Castle is listing show's he mentions "that Joss Whedon show."

[BigFoot]

^ He also said "shiny" at the beginning of the ep.

[TheSeeker]

^I missed that!

[cardinal biggles]

intrinsical wrote:

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My question was more on why drop names like Star Trek, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, Lord of the Rings but not Firefly? Were the producers worried the audience wouldn't know what a Firefly is?

Vulture Capitalist wrote:

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Dropping Firefly directly would've been way too obvious though.

Exactly. And also a bit too meta... it's a cute nod to Fillion's fans that Castle is fond of a long-ago cancelled cult sci-fi show starring a guy who looked suspiciously like him. To invoke the name would be pushing it, though.

[TheSeeker]

It would have been funny if he's elaborated a little more and said something like "That Joss Whedon showing staring that great Canadian actor".

[Neroon]

ancientone51 wrote:

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I enjoyed it immensely. Did you all catch that the guy who was Castle's biggest fan, getting autograph at the beginning was Jonathan Frakes? I confess, I only caught it because of the TV Guide article. But it was fun to see him.

(insert facepalm here)

Completely missed it!

[Skywalker]

Zombie Seeker wrote:

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It would have been funny if he's elaborated a little more and said something like "That Joss Whedon showing staring that great Canadian actor".

Then Beckett could have said something like "There are no great Canadian actors, Castle."

(It's funny because both actors are Canadian. )

[CaptMurdock]

Forbin wrote:

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Somebody needs to make a compilation DVD of TV shows with sci fi con spoof episodes. And dammit, I'm trying to think of others besides the CSI one and the She-Wolf of London one. I know there were more!

"Beyond the Beyond!"

BigFoot wrote:

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^ He also said "shiny" at the beginning of the ep.

I caught that, which is funny because I'm the non-Firefly fan of the house!

[Random_Spock]

ancientone51 wrote:

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I enjoyed it immensely. Did you all catch that the guy who was Castle's biggest fan, getting autograph at the beginning was Jonathan Frakes? I confess, I only caught it because of the TV Guide article. But it was fun to see him.

Me too . Thought it was also a nice nod to Stephen King and Misery... the whole 'I'm your #1 fan' line .

[Christopher]

Well, this was a letdown after last week. I'm not fond of the "documentary crew shooting the team" type of episode; not only is it kind of a cliche, but it tends to be contrived in the execution. But this one was particularly awkward. It did a terrible job simulating documentary footage. There were constant cuts between different camera angles in tight spaces where there couldn't be more than one camera operator, like in the victim's trailer or Ryan and Esposito's car. There were cuts between opposite camera angles yet no sign of the cameramen supposedly shooting them, and conversation scenes where we got closeups that would've been impossible because the other person in the conversation would've been in the way. There was clearly audible dialogue that the mikes were somehow picking up through closed doors. Basically they were using conventional filming techniques with a few superficial variations like shakycam and having the actors look at the camera. Very unconvincing.

There were some fun bits here and there, though. My favorite was the musician improvising a dramatic sting to underline Castle's statement.

[Forbin]

And Castle did his own vocal dramatic sting just before a commercial, and it was the show's theme! (such as it is). How meta! (and a little too silly).

[Kirby]

Christopher makes a lot of good points, and they could have done the whole documentary thing a lot better, but I enjoyed it for what it was, an excuse for the main cast to goof around with the camera.