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Old September 18 2013, 11:36 PM   #751
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Re: Joss Whedon's S.H.I.E.L.D to ABC!

Not to mention they would probably have to rework their contracts to appear in the series. Or sign new contracts. I'm not sure how that would work.
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Old September 18 2013, 11:43 PM   #752
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I don't see why Iron Man can't make a cameo in the show with a few lines.

We already saw several stuntmen wearing great look Iron Man suits in the behind the scenes footage on the IM1 dvds. Don't expect him to be flying around or blowing stuff away with his repulsor blasts though!
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Old September 18 2013, 11:46 PM   #753
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Not to mention they would probably have to rework their contracts to appear in the series. Or sign new contracts. I'm not sure how that would work.
I think it would be a separate contract. The movie contracts would just be inapplicable.
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Old September 18 2013, 11:47 PM   #754
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Not to mention they would probably have to rework their contracts to appear in the series. Or sign new contracts. I'm not sure how that would work.
It seems unlikely that their current contracts with Disney/Marvel would contain any clauses restricting them from doing more stuff for Disney/Marvel. So I don't see why contracting them to appear in the show would conflict in any way with their existing movie contracts and thus require their rewording or replacement. The only potential conflict would be one of scheduling. And the main obstacle, of course, would be one of salary.


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I don't see why Iron Man can't make a cameo in the show with a few lines.
Because it would be cheesy and gimmicky rather than serving a story function, and the producers have already said they're not doing the show that way. The only reason to include a given character in the show is if there's a good story reason for it, a script that justifies their inclusion. Otherwise it's just a petty, mercenary ratings grab, and we should be very, very glad they aren't doing that.

Besides, Marvel's a big universe. Sure, the comics characters cross over now and then, but you can read, say, Spider-Man or X-Men for years without seeing Iron Man or the Hulk show up. So why not let the show have the same freedom to be itself, to carve out its own corner of the MCU?
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Old September 18 2013, 11:57 PM   #755
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I don't see why Iron Man can't make a cameo in the show with a few lines.
Because it would be cheesy and gimmicky rather than serving a story function, and the producers have already said they're not doing the show that way. The only reason to include a given character in the show is if there's a good story reason for it, a script that justifies their inclusion. Otherwise it's just a petty, mercenary ratings grab, and we should be very, very glad they aren't doing that.

Besides, Marvel's a big universe. Sure, the comics characters cross over now and then, but you can read, say, Spider-Man or X-Men for years without seeing Iron Man or the Hulk show up. So why not let the show have the same freedom to be itself, to carve out its own corner of the MCU?
The Arrow producers also said superpowered characters would never appear on the show too, but the Flash will be in the next season.

I'm not demanding anyone appear in SHIELD or anything, but just saying that would be interesting if one of the big superheroes made a small appearance.
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Old September 19 2013, 12:10 AM   #756
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Besides, Marvel's a big universe. Sure, the comics characters cross over now and then, but you can read, say, Spider-Man or X-Men for years without seeing Iron Man or the Hulk show up.
But probably not Wolverine.
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Old September 19 2013, 12:50 AM   #757
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The Arrow producers also said superpowered characters would never appear on the show too, but the Flash will be in the next season.
What? "Too?" That's a complete non sequitur. You're talking about two different things. Of course there are superpowered characters in Agents of SHIELD -- we've all seen the promos with J. August Richards exhibiting superstrength. The show is about dealing with superpowered people, good and bad. But what they've said is that they won't be doing stupid, cheap fanservice references like "Oh, Iron Man was just here before you arrived." That is NOT the same thing as saying they'll never have appearances by the movie characters. It just means they won't cheat and pretend they're hanging around all the time just off-camera. If they do it, it will be real and it will be meaningful.

Yes, Arrow is adding the Flash. But they're adding him as a recurring character who will be central to the story arc of the episodes he appears in. They're not just tossing in a throwaway reference as fanservice.


I'm not demanding anyone appear in SHIELD or anything, but just saying that would be interesting if one of the big superheroes made a small appearance.
No, it would be interesting if they made a meaningful appearance, one that had a story impact rather than just being an empty cameo.
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Old September 19 2013, 01:23 AM   #758
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Well, I believe that SHIELD is going to at least talk about the feature film characters; they'll miss a huge promotional opportunity if they completely ignore their existence.

But for visual crossovers, I don't think you'll see anything but tangential stuff. You might see Cap way off in the distance fighting a battle; maybe even his shield bouncing off the scenery where the tv characters are standing; but SHIELD would be showing the outside perspective (like the JLU Booster Gold episode "The Greatest Story Never Told").

For actual face to face crossover, I see it going the opposite direction - the characters from the tv show will appear in the feature films. That's an easy add.
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Old September 19 2013, 02:23 AM   #759
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At this point, if any movie characters are going to pop up, I'm thinking it would probably be some of the smaller supporting characters would be a lot more likely than any of the big 7.
I was thinking earlier today that Emily VanCamp's Sharon Carter would be a good possibility. She's a movie character, she works for S.H.E.I.L.D. and the actress isn't as high profile as some of the others and she already has a relationship with ABC. Plus Emily VanCamp is friggin' awesome, so I would love to see her pop up one something else I'm (planning on) watching.
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Old September 19 2013, 02:32 AM   #760
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I share the skepticism but I can't help but wonder if the first episode may have some surprises. Should be interesting.
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Old September 19 2013, 02:39 AM   #761
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I guess it's not a surprise anymore to say that one movie character already does pop up in the pilot.
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Old September 19 2013, 05:22 AM   #762
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Re: Joss Whedon's S.H.I.E.L.D to ABC!

Start a new thread, or put it here?

Hell, I'll just put it here...

Rumors of an "Agent Carter" series in development on ABC!

Would make a good companion show to "Agents of SHIELD".
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Old September 19 2013, 06:52 AM   #763
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Ruth Negga (World War Z) lands a recurring arc.
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Old September 19 2013, 12:39 PM   #764
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I'd love to see Iron Man show up for a couple minutes to help finish off a big bad at the end of the episode. You just use the CGI model, and maybe Downey can do a couple lines of voiceover in a sound booth without charging too much.
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Tons of potential characters there. Original Human Torch!
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