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Old September 19 2012, 05:28 PM   #61
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Man, Annie's a little psychopath, isn't she? It's hard to say how much is due to her crappy life and how much of her crappy life is due to her being nuts
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Old September 20 2012, 04:04 AM   #62
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Yeah, I was expecting her to "replace" his daughter, but that sure as shit ain't happening.

Very good episode. I felt it hit all the right notes. I liked the story and I felt the character moments worked well too.
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Old September 21 2012, 05:00 AM   #63
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Finally got around to watching this one. HOLY cow; Annie is one little psycho. I see by next week's preview that some decisions will have to be made about what to do about her.

I liked the "interrogation" of the idiot brother-in-law and I liked that the partner (Francis?) finally spoke up about Corcoran's hanging on to the past. One question about Francis: is his one eye gray/white because of damage or is it just a different color? I can't really get a good look. In some shots, it looks like both eyes are blue and in others, you see one eye is white-ish.
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Old September 21 2012, 03:14 PM   #64
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I never noticed it but then I have 10 year old tv from Wal Mart
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Old September 22 2012, 02:21 PM   #65
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Yeah, my TV isn't big enough for that. It's also possible it's the actor so I wouldn't want to speculate too much on it until we find out for sure it's part of the show.

ETA: A quick google search and they appear to be the same color. I think it's just the way his eyes catch the lighting.

On an unrelated note, something I didn't realize until this episode. Eva Heissen, the person in charge of the brothel, said she was an immigrant. I hadn't really noticed an accent, but I looked up the actress. She's Franka Potente, who is German and was in Run, Lola Run and the girl in the Bourne Identity. I'm surprised they're not playing up her German-ness more.
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Old September 22 2012, 04:57 PM   #66
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You know, until you mentioned it, something about Eva's accent bugged me but I couldn't put my finger on it. But that's it: she's a German actress, playing a German immigrant, and she barely has a German accent.
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Old September 22 2012, 07:36 PM   #67
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Yeah, my TV isn't big enough for that. It's also possible it's the actor so I wouldn't want to speculate too much on it until we find out for sure it's part of the show.

ETA: A quick google search and they appear to be the same color. I think it's just the way his eyes catch the lighting.

On an unrelated note, something I didn't realize until this episode. Eva Heissen, the person in charge of the brothel, said she was an immigrant. I hadn't really noticed an accent, but I looked up the actress. She's Franka Potente, who is German and was in Run, Lola Run and the girl in the Bourne Identity. I'm surprised they're not playing up her German-ness more.
No, it's not the actor. I looked him up on IMDB and he has two very dark blue eyes. I think the white eye is supposed to be part of the "tough" look of the character. *shrug*

Yeah, until she mentioned it at the ball, I didn't know the character was supposed to be German. She could definitely play up the accent more.
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Old September 24 2012, 10:47 PM   #68
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I'm still watching, but the one thing that really bugs me is the little girl. Her character's written very awkwardly, and I'm not really certain where they're going with it, but she strikes me as a rather unnecessary character. She's very distracting and not in a good way. I thought for sure he'd end up adopting her, but I guess that's not the case. I kind of wish they'd stop making her so creepy, because otherwise it's a good show.
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Old September 25 2012, 03:24 AM   #69
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I think the point with Annie is that she symbolizes Corky's inability to let go of the past. He is obsessed with saving her because he couldn't save his daughter and as a result can't see just how malevolent Annie is.

I also think there's the fact that Annie is-for all intents and purposes-a loaded gun. Annie knows how Waterford really died (she and Corky murdered him) and one of these days Annie just may decide that's a secret worth taking down Corky with.

In a way, to draw a comparison to 'the Shield,' Annie is Terry Crowley.
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Old September 26 2012, 07:15 AM   #70
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Yeah, I think I can see that. I just wish her character weren't so awkwardly written. She's disturbing. I get what she was, but the writers keep on going down that road.
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Old September 26 2012, 01:02 PM   #71
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She's intended to be disturbing. The writers keep going down that road because it makes sense for an 11 year old murdering hooker to be disturbing.

If anything, they've left a few points hanging, such as: just how culpable was Annie really in the death of her sister? We really only have her version of how her virginal sister ended up in a whorehouse, being served up to a pedophile in her place and it seemed to be missing some key details how that could've happened.
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Old September 27 2012, 04:06 AM   #72
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Wow, as much as I was complaining about Annie, I didn't expect that

Side plot aside (which looks to be bigger next week), the main plot was fun little transferred intent story. The boxing story was cool too (Robert Morehouse might be my favorite character). But, yeah, it's the two minutes Annie was taken away that really stood out.
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Old September 27 2012, 04:42 AM   #73
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Considering that children were just chattel back then, Annie is probably lucky it took that long for her to be 'dealt with.'

Wish I could feel sorry for her (and i like to think i would if this were real life), but considering she's practically the show's 'big bad,' I can't.
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Old September 27 2012, 04:45 AM   #74
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Damn, that was harsh. Just finished watching it. I liked Robert's way of handling the fight and liked the odd justice of the "murder." But, like Alidar Jarok said, it's that two minutes of her being taken away by her sicko stepdad that really stick with you.
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Old September 27 2012, 11:08 AM   #75
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Considering that children were just chattel back then, Annie is probably lucky it took that long for her to be 'dealt with.'

Wish I could feel sorry for her (and i like to think i would if this were real life), but considering she's practically the show's 'big bad,' I can't.
While I don't like the character, I don't particularly want her fate to end up being raped by someone pretending to be her father. I'd much prefer her to fade into the background rather than end with a bang.
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