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'I'm.Mortal' by dir. Andrew Niccol - rumors, stills,until 2012 release
Justin Timberlake and Amanda Seyfried Spotted On The Set Of Sci-Fi Thriller imdb.com listing: I'm.Mortal (2012) storyline:
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title change
http://www.beyondhollywood.com/new-i...w-sci-fi-film/ |
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Re: 'I'm.Mortal' by dir. Andrew Niccol - rumors, stills,until 2012 rel
...34 years ago, when it was called Logan's Run.
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Re: 'I'm.Mortal' by dir. Andrew Niccol - rumors, stills,until 2012 rel
That said:
Oh right, Hollywood.
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'Now' script plot spoilers
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Rear Admiral
Location: America after the rain
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Re: 'I'm.Mortal' by dir. Andrew Niccol - rumors, stills,until 2012 rel
That said, of course I'll watch this. Between the Truman Show and Gattaca, Andrew Niccol is probably the best science fiction screenwriter in the world, and Gattaca and Lord of War (and, to a lesser degree, S1m0ne), showed that he's a hell of a director. |
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Re: 'I'm.Mortal' by dir. Andrew Niccol - rumors, stills,until 2012 rel
http://www.slashfilm.com/in-time-extended-trailer-starring-justin-timberlake-amanda-seyfried/ I like it! How fitting that this would come out on my 26th birthday!
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Rear Admiral
Location: America after the rain
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Re: 'I'm.Mortal' by dir. Andrew Niccol - rumors, stills,until 2012 rel
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Re: 'I'm.Mortal' by dir. Andrew Niccol - rumors, stills,until 2012 rel
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Rear Admiral
Location: America after the rain
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Re: 'I'm.Mortal' by dir. Andrew Niccol - rumors, stills,until 2012 rel
![]() But close enough. Okay, it looks super fucking cool, as I would expect an Andrew Niccol movie to look, and has a classic Niccol premise--totally preposterous as an exercise in world building, but a potent combination of propagandist scaremongering, expressionist science fiction, and social allegory. I don't mean that as bad thing. It looks like I'll react to it much as I did Gattaca, where I can adore the craft, and adore the movie, and hate everything it stands for. |
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Re: 'I'm.Mortal' by dir. Andrew Niccol - rumors, stills,until 2012 rel
Anyway, I changed it again & it should work now. Also, here's a direct link to the video: http://uk.ign.com/videos/2011/07/21/...-panel-footage
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Rear Admiral
Location: America after the rain
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Re: 'I'm.Mortal' by dir. Andrew Niccol - rumors, stills,until 2012 rel
And what do you mean by "propagandist scaremongering"? It's not like these are campaign commercials or press conferences. Just wondering what you meant. I think "In Time" looks really interesting. Hopefully the trailer reflects the actual quality of the movie. |
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Location: America after the rain
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Re: 'I'm.Mortal' by dir. Andrew Niccol - rumors, stills,until 2012 rel
Firstly, it posits an economic system that only accepts Valids--those with genes highly aligned toward intelligence, discipline, etc--which is built upon a sophisticated, easy-to-use DNA-reading system. I'm pretty sure Vincent Freeman's brain, body, and ambition didn't come out of nowhere, despite the protests of the film to the contrary, and given the method by which the genetic supermen are actually born (simple embryo selection), they cannot actually tell and could not be expected to care whether your parents paid to have you selected from a group of competitive embryos, or if you, naturally, by pure luck, developed cognitive abilities and discipline like Vincent Freeman. Secondly, the entitlement complex of the main character (he's us!) is beyond all measure. He has a major heart condition and is defrauding his way into a position where people are relying on his good health for the safety of their own lives. We do not let people with serious heart conditions be astronauts now, and we have a good reason for this. Interestingly, the film (possibly accidentally) lets it known that a heart condition is not a bar to employment at Gattaca itself (because Irene has a heart condition too!), it's just a bar to being a Gattaca astronaut! What is this guy's deal? Why am I supposed to like him? Thirdly, the movie is a huge "fuck you" to janitors and the world's other Borgnines, basically calling them losers, while Freeman is just a disenfranchised winner. I don't blame Niccol for this, we're so deep in classism as a culture that this is actually forgiveable, as I'm certain it wasn't really intentional. And finally, I'd be willing to accept the film as a lot more ambiguous than a propaganda piece, were it not for some of the cut material where its bias is completely naked--specifically, the little montage of famous awesome people who had major genetic disorders (which usually caused them a great deal of pain, natch) is so blunt-force trauma that it's easy to see why it was cut from the major release. Anyway, the real protagonist of Gattaca? Eugene Morrow. Shit, that guy is sad. Now, In Time is gonna be another story about how when humans exceed the limits of human biology, humans become humongous assholes by default. But despite this, it will be great. |
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Rear Admiral
Location: Ireland.
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Re: 'I'm.Mortal' by dir. Andrew Niccol - rumors, stills,until 2012 rel
I liked Gattaca and The Truman Show well enough, and this looks alright. Cillian Murphy is of course an excellent actor, and I've been liking Amanda Seyfried in Big Love as I've trawled through that program; of the lead actor I know very little, aber, but he has that generic leading man look down pat.
The genetic modification gives seemingly concrete scientific basis for believing some people are basically superior. There's no way that wouldn't permeate society in unsettling ways, although how exactly that'd work is perhaps more contentious. I mean, the capacity for people to go to great lengths to hire people not based strictly on aptitude but whether or not they fit certain tribal requirements - race, religion, gender, ethnicity, politics - is kind of obvious and persistent and, in its variegated permutations, a wonderfully, nastily widespread example of human clannishness. And here's the ultimate clique. The elite. The superior by the writ of Objective Truth. They can get to be bigots and they can do it with wonderful dispassionate reason and higher learning. The kids of those who can afford genetic modification - i.e., not your jaintor's children - can be made superior, and then the rich kids for whom science has made the class divide a meritocratic 'fact' can recruit exclusively among their own. Not that I'm defending the plausibility of the film overall, though. I mean, a space program? Who the hell thinks that's in our near future anymore?
Of course, the answer in Gattaca - and apparently In Time - is not to criticize the state of those who are the underclass, but to try and become the upper class. It is I suppose a very American take, but this is just an uneducated guess on my part.
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