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Old April 30 2014, 05:29 AM   #1156
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Re: La-La Land to release 15-disc original series score set

That's because Corbomite was filmed early, but took forever to complete in post-production.
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Old April 30 2014, 07:41 AM   #1157
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I just listened to "The Paradise Syndrome" CDs back to back. First the LLL and then the Royal Philharmonic.

In the LLL, I think I'm hearing a harpsichord during Spock's climactic mind meld, although it isn't listed in the orchestra credits.

The original is of course unbeatable. "Miramanee" is better at the original tempo, as many have observed; it gets her lively youth across. "Forest Montage" is the most important cue that the Royal Phil omitted. And "Miramanee's Death" plays out more effectively in the original. I got into it and actually welled up a little. It's great.

That said, I still got tremendous enjoyment out the Royal Phil. It's a tight, highlights-only presentation, so the 20 minutes go by fast. In a sense, it's like when you skip the previously unreleased atonal cues in THE WRATH OF KHAN. And I'm not tired of this music as the LLL comes to a close, so the re-recording is like an encore.
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Old April 30 2014, 02:15 PM   #1158
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This set is the gift that keeps on giving. It still gets repeated play, some episodes more than others, but maybe two days – maximum – go by without my dipping into the music. Really thought I’d be over it by now, but nope. Not yet.
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Old April 30 2014, 04:26 PM   #1159
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It's been a while since I was really paying attention to this but "production order" puts scores OUT of the order they were recorded in. e.g. Corbomite was recorded AFTER Charlie X, The Naked Time, Mudd’s Women, and The Enemy Within.
That's because the score is just about the last thing done, after the editing and effects have been completed -- otherwise the composer won't know what he or she is scoring to. And as Harvey said, "Corbomite"'s effects work took a long time to complete, which is why it was aired so late in the season.
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Old April 30 2014, 06:03 PM   #1160
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It’s really interesting how they chose what music to track in the second season. After the initial batch of episodes were scored, certain types of episodes would have a lot of music from the same source. For example (and this isn’t all inclusive or without exceptions):

Space based/combat/Starfleet centric episodes would have a lot of music from The Doomsday Machine (Obsession, The Ultimate Computer, The Immunity Syndrome, The Deadly Years).

Episodes with lots of countryside location shooting and primitive tribes would get the similar sounding Friday’s Child/Catspaw music (A Private Little War jumps out at me).

Episodes with arena style combat: Amok Time fight music (Gamesters of Triskelion, Bread and Circuses, The Omega Glory)

And the phaser firing finale of The Apple’s similarities to Who Mourns for Adonias? Are reinforced by the use of that episodes score from the same scene, just a little differently and enhanced by library cues from The Cage.

The other two seasons more freely mixed and matched the music, with less thematic emphasis. For example, a lot of the music from Spock’s Brain was reused repeatedly in the back half of the third season. The last few episodes opened with the same cue. The first season also just put in whatever seemed right for the moment. However, the second season was interesting in its thematic unity.
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Old April 30 2014, 07:43 PM   #1161
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Going through the end of season 3 recently I was amazed at how many episodes were (or seemed to be) tracked entirely with season 1 music or even the two pilots!
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Old April 30 2014, 09:57 PM   #1162
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Going through the end of season 3 recently I was amazed at how many episodes were (or seemed to be) tracked entirely with season 1 music or even the two pilots!
I'm actually watching many season 3 episodes for the first time ever and was surprised at how much "Wink of an Eye" was tracked with "The Cage".
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Old April 30 2014, 10:05 PM   #1163
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Going through the end of season 3 recently I was amazed at how many episodes were (or seemed to be) tracked entirely with season 1 music or even the two pilots!
I'm actually watching many season 3 episodes for the first time ever and was surprised at how much "Wink of an Eye" was tracked with "The Cage".
That's probably the one I was thinking of.
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Old May 1 2014, 12:57 PM   #1164
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Some of those cues were rerecorded as library music specifically for the 3rd season. There are a lot of first and second season cues redone. However, some episodes, like Lights of Zetar, do take the actual original cues from Where No Man Has Gone Before and so on.
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Old May 13 2014, 08:52 PM   #1165
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It would be kind of cool to see those season 3 episodes re-cut using the re-recorded library cues instead of the original Pilot cues. Just for shits & giggles.
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Old June 14 2014, 04:01 AM   #1166
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Here is a link to a playlist containing the as heard episodic soundtrack of almost every TOS episode with the use of this boxset. Quite a feat and a remarkable project that I often thought of undertaking!
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Old June 14 2014, 04:11 AM   #1167
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Went to the link above. So I am now listening to LaLaLand's efforts without paying for it; nor to the original owner LLL would pass on some licensing money to. Nor are the composers getting the cut I believe they would still be getting from mechanical royalties (hard copy CD sales).

And so it goes.

Do I have the integrity to shut off the free music?
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Old June 14 2014, 01:03 PM   #1168
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He even has download links.

I wish he'd post tracklists someplace though.
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Old June 14 2014, 01:12 PM   #1169
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Went to the link above. So I am now listening to LaLaLand's efforts without paying for it; nor to the original owner LLL would pass on some licensing money to. Nor are the composers getting the cut I believe they would still be getting from mechanical royalties (hard copy CD sales).

And so it goes.

Do I have the integrity to shut off the free music?
I did; but because it was bedtime; and because it wasn't really pleasant background music. It is so episodic, no pun intended, it kept distracting me with each different snippet and change.

I might be wrong about the composers; these were "works for hire" so they probably don't have a share in the publishing rights and royalties. Maybe it's just two companies getting cheated. Do I care less?

If I were LaLa or the original copyright owner I'd be pissed though.
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Old June 14 2014, 04:56 PM   #1170
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Speaking of episodic playlists, I've finally gotten around to archiving my box set on my computer so I can save the music on my new smartphone, and I'm thinking I'd like to create a playlist for "Mirror, Mirror" that would incorporate the Alexander Courage library tracks (which I think were "Fight on Captain's Theme" and "Sad and Thoughtful on Captain's Theme"). I don't want to try to recreate the entire episode score, just insert those two cues into the existing "Mirror, Mirror" track list between the appropriate cues so that they're in the same order they were in the episode. Where would be the right place to insert them? Looking at the track list, I'm guessing they could both go between "Pretty Marlena" and "Goodbye Marlena." Does that sound about right?
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