La-La Land to release 15-disc original series score set - Page 59

Kamdan · December 23 2012, 06:53 PM

It's at the beginning of the "Charlie Is My Darling" track, as I recall.

Yes, but there was an instrumental version of it was used in The Way to Eden. Would have been nice to see that track without Nichelle Nichols' vocals.

If I recall correctly, that music was from "Where No Man Has Gone Before," though I don't know the cue title.

Yeah, there's a bit of Where No Man Has Gone Before in there, but I'm talking specifically about that violin music for Loki and Bele's close-ups.

ssosmcin · December 23 2012, 07:23 PM

Kamdan wrote:

Yeah, there's a bit of Where No Man Has Gone Before in there, but I'm talking specifically about that violin music for Loki and Bele's close-ups.

That's from The Empath, the track is "Don't Touch Me."

ssosmcin · December 23 2012, 07:27 PM

RandyS wrote:

cbspock wrote:

The tracks for the Man Trap, man they are depressing and tedious to listen to. It is fun just listening to the cues and scenes they were used for just pop into your head.

-Chris

I don't know about depressing, but if by tedious, you mean repetitive, then yeah, I agree.

I agree that The Man Trap can be a difficult listen, but hearing it away from the episode really shows how Courage nailed it. The script was so-so, but the music played up the spookiness, eerie feelings and the sheer tragedy of the story. What was downplayed in the episode to a degree (the end of an intelligent species) is made to be incredibly sad by the music. There is hopelessness all over the score and while it's not a fun happy time at the CD player, it does effectively make the mood of the episode; heavy, scary, crushing. It's repetitive because that's what happens with a lot of TV scoring. The fact that it happens so seldom says a lot about the composers, but for the most part, a complete TV score is a study in patient listening.

The Man Trap is a solid, incredible score for what it accomplishes. I've always loved it, but now I truly appreciate it. Top marks.

Dalen Quaice · December 23 2012, 08:11 PM

Kamdan wrote:

It's at the beginning of the "Charlie Is My Darling" track, as I recall.

Yes, but there was an instrumental version of it was used in The Way to Eden. Would have been nice to see that track without Nichelle Nichols' vocals.

The source exists, because Neil said they had to remix because the singing was recorded as part of the dialogue.

Kamdan · December 24 2012, 12:09 AM

The source exists, because Neil said they had to remix because the singing was recorded as part of the dialogue.

Would have nice to see that, since it was used in The Way to Eden. "ALL" of the music from Star Trek? Seems to missing a few things.

Christopher · December 24 2012, 12:39 AM

Kamdan wrote:

"ALL" of the music from Star Trek? Seems to missing a few things.

So far, the unmixed Vulcan lyre source is the only thing that could be considered an omission as far as instrumentals are concerned. And it is included on the set, just not in isolation. The only other things that are absent, as far as we know, are two bits of on-set singing that weren't part of the surviving music tapes: Kevin Riley's "I'll Take You Home Again, Kathleen" and Adam's "clean bill of health from Dr. McCoy" improv.

Dalen Quaice · December 24 2012, 12:41 AM

Kamdan wrote:

The source exists, because Neil said they had to remix because the singing was recorded as part of the dialogue.

Would have nice to see that, since it was used in The Way to Eden. "ALL" of the music from Star Trek? Seems to missing a few things.

Yes, missing Riley singing, "I'll Take You Home Again, Kathleen," from Naked Time as well as the 3rd season bumper music, "Fan Out", by Wilbur Hatch.

There is a song missing from The Way to Eden also -- someone mentioned it earlier in the thread. I don't think it is on there. The cue is, I think, "Steppin' in to Eden", a fast up tempo version of "Headin' out to Eden". It is sung in the episode just before Dr. Sevrin says, "Now we may leave..."

I get to open my set on Xmas -- only a few days...

Maurice · December 24 2012, 01:48 AM

Just listening to Season 2 Disc 5 and heard the unused "source" music tracks for the bar in Tribbles: "The Musak Maker" and "Scherzo Maker". Not surprised these went unused, because they sound like part of the score as opposed to music playing in the bar.

FredH · December 24 2012, 02:50 AM

Have been reveling in this set, and just finished Season 1. I'm finding that listening to the individual scores is somehow more evocative of the episodes than watching the actual episodes is, paradoxical though that sounds.

A number of tracks seem to start with the first note already "in progress" as the recording begins. I assume that's an unavoidable artifact of taking many/most of these from the original recordings?

Kagan · December 24 2012, 03:18 AM

Received my set on Friday, and all I can say is AWESOME!!!

Dalen Quaice · December 24 2012, 05:02 AM

FredH wrote:

Have been reveling in this set, and just finished Season 1. I'm finding that listening to the individual scores is somehow more evocative of the episodes than watching the actual episodes is, paradoxical though that sounds.

A number of tracks seem to start with the first note already "in progress" as the recording begins. I assume that's an unavoidable artifact of taking many/most of these from the original recordings?

Why would the original recordings begin "in-session" ?? These were recorded on reel-to-reel audio tape. It would be difficult to begin at the first of a tape without spooling off some leader. Also, I would have thought Glen Glenn Sound would have some sort of "Production 60040" slate before a session.

ssosmcin · December 24 2012, 05:13 AM

Christopher wrote:

The only other things that are absent, as far as we know, are two bits of on-set singing that weren't part of the surviving music tapes: Kevin Riley's "I'll Take You Home Again, Kathleen" and Adam's "clean bill of health from Dr. McCoy" improv.

And, you know, I'm really quite okay with that....

Joe_Atari · December 25 2012, 06:25 AM

Dalen Quaice wrote:

I have for years asked why the commercial bumpers were never included in the video releases - I got everything from we don't own the rights to the masters were unavailable (and a coupon good on my next purchase! LOL). On several of the video releases you could see the faint outline of the bumpers where they were edited out after the act fade out... yes, edited from a supposedly complete and uncut episode.

I know this goes back a ways, but this seems like a good place to ask. I'm looking for alternative cover art for the MP3s I made from the box set, and I had the idea to use the commercial bumpers for each season. So I'm looking for high-quality stills of these. Here's a great source for the third season bumper:

Any ideas for seasons 1 & 2?

Thanks!

Kamdan · December 25 2012, 07:29 AM

Captain Claus wrote:

Christopher wrote:

The only other things that are absent, as far as we know, are two bits of on-set singing that weren't part of the surviving music tapes: Kevin Riley's "I'll Take You Home Again, Kathleen" and Adam's "clean bill of health from Dr. McCoy" improv.

And, you know, I'm really quite okay with that....

Those didn't have musical accompaniment, so that would make sense as to why they weren't included.

Harvey · December 25 2012, 07:53 AM

Was told that I won't be getting this set for Xmas after all today.

I hope I can put together the funds myself before it goes OOP.

December 24 2012, 01:48 AM	#878
Maurice Rear Admiral Location: Maurice in San Francisco	Re: La-La Land to release 15-disc original series score set Just listening to Season 2 Disc 5 and heard the unused "source" music tracks for the bar in Tribbles: "The Musak Maker" and "Scherzo Maker". Not surprised these went unused, because they sound like part of the score as opposed to music playing in the bar. __________________ * * * "Star Trek…at times sparkled with true ingenuity, and pure science fiction approaches, and at other times was more carnival like, and very much more the creature of television than the creature of a legitimate literary form." —Rod Serling, 1970"

December 24 2012, 02:50 AM	#879
FredH Captain	Re: La-La Land to release 15-disc original series score set Have been reveling in this set, and just finished Season 1. I'm finding that listening to the individual scores is somehow more evocative of the episodes than watching the actual episodes is, paradoxical though that sounds. A number of tracks seem to start with the first note already "in progress" as the recording begins. I assume that's an unavoidable artifact of taking many/most of these from the original recordings?

December 24 2012, 03:18 AM	#880
Kagan Commodore Location: Between Rigel VII and Talos IV	Re: La-La Land to release 15-disc original series score set Received my set on Friday, and all I can say is AWESOME!!! __________________ We're not going to go? To be certain? - Spock, The Cage

December 25 2012, 07:53 AM	#885
Harvey Admiral	Re: La-La Land to release 15-disc original series score set Was told that I won't be getting this set for Xmas after all today. I hope I can put together the funds myself before it goes OOP. __________________ "What do you hear, Starbuck?" "Nothing but the rain, sir." "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat."

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