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Old April 27 2015, 12:08 PM   #1
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Orphan Black or Falling Skies?

So I just got Netflix - best $8.99 per month I've ever spent.

I've already watched Daredevil, and I'm planning on watching House of Cards with the wife; but I need a new sci-fi fix.

Both Orphan Black and Falling Skies look interesting, and I'll probably give both a shot - but may I ask you, the wise denizens of the TrekBBS, to give me your recommendations on which I should watch first?

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Old April 27 2015, 12:23 PM   #2
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Re: Orphan Black or Falling Skies?

Orphan Black.

If you make your wife watch 4 seasons of Falling Skies, she will hurt you before leaving forever.
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Old April 27 2015, 12:34 PM   #3
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Re: Orphan Black or Falling Skies?

That bad is it?
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Old April 27 2015, 01:00 PM   #4
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Re: Orphan Black or Falling Skies?

Oh by all means watch as much of Falling Skies as you can stomach, but Orphan Black First.

Falling Skies is Lucy with the foot ball.

You always think it's going to be good, or get better, and then you're flat on your ass.

The story is about a pompous asshole who thinks that he is always right, and no matter what stupid shit he does to sacrifice the world to save his 3 kids, everything always turns out peaches for him as he is regaled as a super hero, when he should be food.

Stupid god awful decision after stupid god awful decision about "we are Americans who love family and our culture and history, and that if this is what we have to do to win, it is not worth it because we'd rather die together as an American family than live live as sneaky rat bastards who make the hard choices".

Falling Skies is about hope, that becuase of the filter of an awful writers room, translates as delusion.

But factually if it came to a choice between the world or one of his kids, Tom Mason would let the world burn. He's just lucky that every time he made that decision that fate intervened and the world didn't.

Oh and he keeps trying to martyr himself, and that never works as well.

So, every time Mason survives one of his own suicide attempts, the last dregs of humanity look on at him in awe and build another statue.

But the mechs are cool.

Sleeker looking Ed 209's from Robocop.

Stomp, stomp, bang, bang.

If you want to see Noah Wiley where he's not infinitely slappable, check out the Librarians.

You shouldn't not watch it, because you want to watch shows about space ships, but you shouldn't have high expectations when you do get around to it.

Falling skies is like masturbating with a cheese grater, slightly enjoyable, but mostly painful.
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Old April 27 2015, 01:04 PM   #5
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Re: Orphan Black or Falling Skies?

Thanks Guy, graphic but useful feedback

So is Orphan Black good or is it just better that Falling Skies (which doesn't seem to be too hard from what you said)?
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Old April 27 2015, 01:16 PM   #6
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Re: Orphan Black or Falling Skies?

It's good science fiction geared toward a female audience, with the Max Headroom seal of Approval.
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Old April 27 2015, 01:26 PM   #7
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Re: Orphan Black or Falling Skies?

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It's good science fiction geared toward a female audience
The fiancé didn't like the pilot, I did.

Hmm.
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Old April 27 2015, 01:45 PM   #8
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Re: Orphan Black or Falling Skies?

You didn't tell her that she can play bare bum bingo with the entire adult cast?
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Old April 27 2015, 01:58 PM   #9
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Re: Orphan Black or Falling Skies?

I gave up on Falling Skies after one season, and I was overly generous to give it that long. It was mediocre and weakly written, and the only reason I stuck around as long as I did was that it had some really beautiful women in the cast, like Moon Bloodgood. The moment where it totally lost me was...



Orphan Black, on the other hand, is brilliant. There are elements of it that are too dark for my tastes -- violence, moral ambiguity, drug use by a lot of the characters -- but it's a very well-made and intelligent story with a lot of cleverness and humor and surprising warmth. And it's built around an utterly amazing feat of acting, since star Tatiana Maslany plays a large number of identical clones who all have remarkably different personalities, and she's so incredible at it (with help from her hair and makeup people) that I often forget I'm not watching multiple different actresses. If you admire the craft of acting at all, Maslany's performance is a must-see.

It's also one of the most LGBT-inclusive shows on TV, and also very feminist -- not in a self-conscious or strident way, but simply because it's centered so overwhelmingly on female characters by its very premise (and not just the clones but the other women in their lives), and because the clone characters are fighting to assert control of their lives and bodies against those who want to exploit or possess them, so there's an allegorical element there if you look for it.
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Old April 27 2015, 02:25 PM   #10
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Re: Orphan Black or Falling Skies?

Orphan Black by miles. Great show, great acting, compelling characters, interesting storyline.

Falling Skies is pure trash that I'm only still watching out of sheer force of will and an almost unhealthy need to be a completist and watch till the end. Don't start down that rabbit hole. Save yourself before it's too late.
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Old April 27 2015, 02:33 PM   #11
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Old April 27 2015, 02:33 PM   #12
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Falling Skies is pure trash that I'm only still watching out of sheer force of will and an almost unhealthy need to be a completist and watch till the end.
LoB, I'm sorry to hear that. Thankfully, completionism only hits me with video games, and thankfully, I usually don't end up with bad ones.
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Old April 27 2015, 02:55 PM   #13
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Re: Orphan Black or Falling Skies?

I think I've officially given up on Falling Skies. It's had it's moments and some genuinly good cast members doing the best they can, but sitting through the last season was like pulling teeth.

Orphan Black on the other had generally fires on all cylinders.
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Old April 27 2015, 02:57 PM   #14
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That bad is it?
Falling Skies spends too much time per episode of character sitting around providing detailed accounts of previous events, even if it's just character stuff, instead of seeing it it's just the character sitting around talking about it happening. It's the ultimate violator of the "show, don't tell" rule. All the excitement of turning on the TV for a radio program.

I've only watched one random episode of Orphan Black, but it was generally more engaging than the two episodes of Falling Skies I saw.
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Old April 27 2015, 04:44 PM   #15
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Wow...I wouldn't be THAt harsh on Falling Skies...

Bt Orphan Black would be the better choice, especially with season 3 just starting backup.
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