Did Pete even make sense?

Morpheus 02 · August 4 2012, 01:53 PM

Unfortunately, sweet Samantha Carter has had problems having a boyfriend (let alone a husband!). I thought Martouf (as played by JR Bourne) was an EXCELLENT match for the character & actress. I saw the first episode where he was intorduced a while back, and the romnce was completely believeable to me from the beginning. I was very sd when he died.

But Pete???? Where did he come from? Did anyone feel like they really clicked?

To me, it just seemed so forced...trying to get a "real world" person in the Stargate show.

Was the main reason he was on the show because he was Peter DeLuise's brother?

Now, as far as I can tell, he's a nice guy, and he's actually a god fit for comedy shows like Disney's "Wizards of Waverly Place", or even some other character in the Stargate Franchise.

But Samantha's boyfriend?

RoJoHen · August 4 2012, 06:16 PM

I think that was kind of the point. He was a terrible match for Carter, and everybody knew it.

The Borgified Corpse · August 4 2012, 10:15 PM

Morpheus 02 wrote:

Now, as far as I can tell, he's a nice guy, and he's actually a god fit for comedy shows like Disney's "Wizards of Waverly Place", or even some other character in the Stargate Franchise.

Wasn't he also one of Dick's students on 3rd Rock from the Sun?

DWF · August 4 2012, 11:15 PM

Opposites attract and he was only four eps. and I thought Carter treated him rather badly dumping him like she did. But I had no real problem with him, had the series ended after the eighth season and they were married at least Carter might've had something of a happy ending. But towards the end of the show we saw the main characters getting awat from the SGC more and more and Pete was just an attempt to get Carter out the SGC from time to time.

AJ86 · August 5 2012, 11:18 AM

I actually found his relationship with Carter to be one of the more believable on the show. The Martouf stuff was just creepy. He's a man with a parasite in his head, and the only really she's attracted to him anyway is because she had a parsite in her head, and so she her those residual feelings. Was Pete really a bad match, or were the shippers just QQing because she wasn't with Jack? Carter has always been an emotional retard anyway, so it was never going to work either way.

The Wormhole · August 5 2012, 01:41 PM

I'm not a Carter/O'Neill shipper, but I think Pete really was a bad match. However, I think the intention was to make him a bad match.

Admiral2 · August 5 2012, 02:15 PM

Pete was better for Samantha than Jack O'Neill.

A normal human being with a normal job and a normal life capable of actually expressing his feelings for Sam without worrying about military propriety...or for that matter having a snake in his head.

He doesn't deserve the negativity I've seen heaped on him since his appearance, most of it motivated by fanatical Sam/Jack shippers with no imagination.

Pete was fine. There was nothing forced or off about the relationship.

TiberiusMaximus · August 5 2012, 04:59 PM

^That's true, but I just didn't like him all that much.

RoJoHen · August 5 2012, 08:27 PM

Ultimately, the real problem with Pete was that Sam never really wanted him in the first place. I think Sam was just so desperate for a relationship, and she figured Pete was a nice enough guy, that she just went for it. Pete on his own was a fine character, but he and Sam were never going to work out.

Brent · August 5 2012, 11:23 PM

Pete felt forced, it was an attempt to make it look like Sam had a love life, which was incredibly lacking in the show.

I am for the Martouf relationship, even though really the feelings come from Jolinar, I still felt like Sam herself was developing a love for him seperate of that. They certainly could have molded it that way. I'm let down that Sam never really got a solid relationship on the show, and I thought Martouf would have been perfect. I really liked his character. He seemed like a rational Tokra unlike others.

DWF · August 6 2012, 02:10 AM

RoJoHen wrote:

Ultimately, the real problem with Pete was that Sam never really wanted him in the first place. I think Sam was just so desperate for a relationship, and she figured Pete was a nice enough guy, that she just went for it. Pete on his own was a fine character, but he and Sam were never going to work out.

He made her whistle in the elevador, no other man on the show made her do that But she dumped him after telling him the whole truth, which made her look bad to me. It really showed that the writers were ready yet to write interpersonal relationships on the show.

Of course I have to wonder how different the role might've been had Ben Browder taken the part.

Agent Richard07 · August 7 2012, 02:59 AM

I only clicked on this thread to find out who Pete was.

Jeff O'Connor · August 7 2012, 07:27 AM

I'm not a Jack/Sam shipper per se, or anything like it, really, but the amount of hinting at a relationship between them over the course of eight seasons, and then sprinkled in throughout the remainder of the franchise to-date, just seemed really silly to me.

I'm not as well-versed on my franchise lore as I used to be, but didn't Sam insinuate she was with Jack at some later point into SGA or something, too? Except I seem to remember it was written as, "it could well be Jack! But maybe not." It's just like... good lord, man. Stop teasing the poor people, stop teasing the poor characters too (yes, i know they don't exist, but geez!), and if you are going to finally state that she might be with him, freaking show it so the shippers can all unanimously quiet down into a bunker of pure transcendence and the matter can at last be laid to rest.

The last few years of the franchise had major problems with showing all sorts of things, though, really, so it's no big surprise I guess.

AJ86 · August 7 2012, 01:37 PM

I think the thing in Atlantis may have been cut. Probably just Mallozzi throwing the shippers a bone. He's one of them afterall.

Sindatur · August 7 2012, 03:32 PM

Jeff O'Connor wrote:

I'm not a Jack/Sam shipper per se, or anything like it, really, but the amount of hinting at a relationship between them over the course of eight seasons, and then sprinkled in throughout the remainder of the franchise to-date, just seemed really silly to me.

I'm not as well-versed on my franchise lore as I used to be, but didn't Sam insinuate she was with Jack at some later point into SGA or something, too? Except I seem to remember it was written as, "it could well be Jack! But maybe not." It's just like... good lord, man. Stop teasing the poor people, stop teasing the poor characters too (yes, i know they don't exist, but geez!), and if you are going to finally state that she might be with him, freaking show it so the shippers can all unanimously quiet down into a bunker of pure transcendence and the matter can at last be laid to rest.

The last few years of the franchise had major problems with showing all sorts of things, though, really, so it's no big surprise I guess.

I'm beginning Season 10 now, on my first full rewatch. shortly after dumping Pete, she was hanging out at O'Neill's house, and O'Neill's CIA (I think?) girlfriend dumped him, because it was obvious he loved Sam, and Sam does imply in S9 that she's in a relationship, so, yea, I think it's pretty clear they got together

August 4 2012, 01:53 PM	#1
Morpheus 02 Commodore Location: Chicago IL	Did Pete even make sense? Unfortunately, sweet Samantha Carter has had problems having a boyfriend (let alone a husband!). I thought Martouf (as played by JR Bourne) was an EXCELLENT match for the character & actress. I saw the first episode where he was intorduced a while back, and the romnce was completely believeable to me from the beginning. I was very sd when he died. But Pete???? Where did he come from? Did anyone feel like they really clicked? To me, it just seemed so forced...trying to get a "real world" person in the Stargate show. Was the main reason he was on the show because he was Peter DeLuise's brother? Now, as far as I can tell, he's a nice guy, and he's actually a god fit for comedy shows like Disney's "Wizards of Waverly Place", or even some other character in the Stargate Franchise. But Samantha's boyfriend? __________________ Morpheus 02 a.k.a. JP Paulus jp [at] paulus . com

August 4 2012, 06:16 PM	#2
RoJoHen Awesome Location: Wherever life takes me	Re: Did Pete even make sense? I think that was kind of the point. He was a terrible match for Carter, and everybody knew it. __________________ I am the Quintessential Admiral. Get ready to grow your EQUINOX BEARD!

August 4 2012, 11:15 PM	#4
DWF Vice Admiral Location: Columbus, Ohio	Re: Did Pete even make sense? Opposites attract and he was only four eps. and I thought Carter treated him rather badly dumping him like she did. But I had no real problem with him, had the series ended after the eighth season and they were married at least Carter might've had something of a happy ending. But towards the end of the show we saw the main characters getting awat from the SGC more and more and Pete was just an attempt to get Carter out the SGC from time to time. __________________ The greatest science fiction series of all time is Doctor Who! And I'll take you all on, one-by-one or all in a bunch to back it up!" --- Harlan Ellison, from his introduction to the PINNACLE series of Doctor Who books

August 5 2012, 11:18 AM	#5
AJ86 Captain	Re: Did Pete even make sense? I actually found his relationship with Carter to be one of the more believable on the show. The Martouf stuff was just creepy. He's a man with a parasite in his head, and the only really she's attracted to him anyway is because she had a parsite in her head, and so she her those residual feelings. Was Pete really a bad match, or were the shippers just QQing because she wasn't with Jack? Carter has always been an emotional retard anyway, so it was never going to work either way.

August 5 2012, 01:41 PM	#6
The Wormhole Admiral	Re: Did Pete even make sense? I'm not a Carter/O'Neill shipper, but I think Pete really was a bad match. However, I think the intention was to make him a bad match. __________________ "Internet message boards aren't as funny today as they were ten years ago. I've stopped reading new posts." -The Simpsons 20th anniversary special.

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August 5 2012, 02:15 PM	#7
Admiral2 Vice Admiral Location: The PIT, in Utah...	Re: Did Pete even make sense? Pete was better for Samantha than Jack O'Neill. A normal human being with a normal job and a normal life capable of actually expressing his feelings for Sam without worrying about military propriety...or for that matter having a snake in his head. He doesn't deserve the negativity I've seen heaped on him since his appearance, most of it motivated by fanatical Sam/Jack shippers with no imagination. Pete was fine. There was nothing forced or off about the relationship. __________________ "Actually that one scene is quite representative of the film: driving a classic off a cliff and thoroughly trashing it." -Warped9 on ST09

August 5 2012, 04:59 PM	#8
TiberiusMaximus Fleet Captain Location: A ship, a living ship, full of strange alien lifeforms.	Re: Did Pete even make sense? ^That's true, but I just didn't like him all that much. __________________ "Quite possibly, the five Jem'Hadar could turn Data into a collection of four spasming limbs, one helpless torso, and one head that shouts insults at them like the Black Knight from the Monty Python sketch." -Timo Saloniemi

August 5 2012, 08:27 PM	#9
RoJoHen Awesome Location: Wherever life takes me	Re: Did Pete even make sense? Ultimately, the real problem with Pete was that Sam never really wanted him in the first place. I think Sam was just so desperate for a relationship, and she figured Pete was a nice enough guy, that she just went for it. Pete on his own was a fine character, but he and Sam were never going to work out. __________________ I am the Quintessential Admiral. Get ready to grow your EQUINOX BEARD!

August 5 2012, 11:23 PM	#10
Brent Admiral Location: TARDIS	Re: Did Pete even make sense? Pete felt forced, it was an attempt to make it look like Sam had a love life, which was incredibly lacking in the show. I am for the Martouf relationship, even though really the feelings come from Jolinar, I still felt like Sam herself was developing a love for him seperate of that. They certainly could have molded it that way. I'm let down that Sam never really got a solid relationship on the show, and I thought Martouf would have been perfect. I really liked his character. He seemed like a rational Tokra unlike others. __________________ "Would you mind not standing on my chest? My hat's on fire." - The Doctor My Let's Play Series of STO - http://www.youtube.com/user/JustGaming4Us

August 7 2012, 02:59 AM	#12
Agent Richard07 The Tim Burton Version Location: Defying Logic	Re: Did Pete even make sense? I only clicked on this thread to find out who Pete was.

August 7 2012, 07:27 AM	#13
Jeff O'Connor Commodore Location: Tampa, FL	Re: Did Pete even make sense? I'm not a Jack/Sam shipper per se, or anything like it, really, but the amount of hinting at a relationship between them over the course of eight seasons, and then sprinkled in throughout the remainder of the franchise to-date, just seemed really silly to me. I'm not as well-versed on my franchise lore as I used to be, but didn't Sam insinuate she was with Jack at some later point into SGA or something, too? Except I seem to remember it was written as, "it could well be Jack! But maybe not." It's just like... good lord, man. Stop teasing the poor people, stop teasing the poor characters too (yes, i know they don't exist, but geez!), and if you are going to finally state that she might be with him, freaking show it so the shippers can all unanimously quiet down into a bunker of pure transcendence and the matter can at last be laid to rest. The last few years of the franchise had major problems with showing all sorts of things, though, really, so it's no big surprise I guess. __________________ Star Trek 1966-

August 7 2012, 01:37 PM	#14
AJ86 Captain	Re: Did Pete even make sense? I think the thing in Atlantis may have been cut. Probably just Mallozzi throwing the shippers a bone. He's one of them afterall.