Help me, Rick Sternbach, you're my only hope!

Cadeus · October 16 2012, 04:50 AM

I am very sorry for the Star Wars plug, but it was most appropriate. I am trying to organize enough info to build a 1:350 scale Enterprise-C. I have a bunch of references, but I lack the accurate blue-prints. I was hoping I could cast a line out and maybe Rick Sternbach might actually contact me. It is hoping for a lot, but I would love to have the accurate prints, so I can do this vessel justice... at 1:350 scale, if something is off, it is gonna be noticeable. Thanks for looking, and I hope to hear from you!

Trekker4747 · October 16 2012, 05:19 PM

Since Andrew Probert designed the ship he might be of more help to you.

Tiberius · October 16 2012, 05:22 PM

The Galaxy Class blueprints have huge sheets with the exterior schematics on them. Can you find them on eBay or something?

Cadeus · October 16 2012, 08:16 PM

Circus Peanut wrote:

Since Andrew Probert designed the ship he might be of more help to you.

do you have his number? I began searching for Rick Sternbach, because someone told me he could help. I would love to be able to chat with either one of them, to be honest.

Cadeus · October 16 2012, 08:21 PM

Ti-BOO!-rius wrote:

The Galaxy Class blueprints have huge sheets with the exterior schematics on them. Can you find them on eBay or something?

I found this on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/U-S-S-Enterp...item35b572a38f ... is that what you meant? I haven't read that yet, but it would only help me if it also had the blue-prints for the C. The galaxy-class is the D... I dig the author, though. I'll have to hit my local B&N and check it out. Thanks for looking!

Tiberius · October 16 2012, 08:40 PM

Yeah, that's the one I meant.

And sorry for the blunder, I read it as Enterprise D...

Here's some stuff that may help...

Ventral view

And this one I think you'll find quite useful.

Here's another one.

And for the slight modification that was done to the Ambassador class...

Trekker4747 · October 16 2012, 09:42 PM

Cadeus wrote:

Circus Peanut wrote:

Since Andrew Probert designed the ship he might be of more help to you.

do you have his number? I began searching for Rick Sternbach, because someone told me he could help. I would love to be able to chat with either one of them, to be honest.

Probert posts here as well from time-to-time.

Cadeus · October 17 2012, 04:34 AM

Circu Peanut, you have GOT to change your avatar... Every time I see those yummy orange peanuts, I begin to salivate! LOL

sojourner · October 17 2012, 10:56 PM

Sternbach designed the Enterprise - C. Probert designed the Ambassador class. There's a distinct difference there. Sternbach's design was the version used for Yesterday's Enterprise and subsequently the model was re-used in DS9. Probert's version was never used except as the inaccurate gold display case model we see in TNG. Tobias Richter, working with Probert, did complete a full up CGI version of the Ambassador class as seen here.

Utopianvista · October 17 2012, 11:00 PM

sojourner wrote:

Sternbach designed the Enterprise - C. Probert designed the Ambassador class. There's a distinct difference there. Sternbach's design was the version used for Yesterday's Enterprise and subsequently the model was re-used in DS9. Probert's version was never used except as the inaccurate gold display case model we see in TNG. Tobias Richter, working with Probert, did complete a full up CGI version of the Ambassador class as seen here.

Wow I never realized just how different the two designs were!

Trekker4747 · October 18 2012, 12:20 AM

sojourner wrote:

Sternbach designed the Enterprise - C. Probert designed the Ambassador class. There's a distinct difference there. Sternbach's design was the version used for Yesterday's Enterprise and subsequently the model was re-used in DS9. Probert's version was never used except as the inaccurate gold display case model we see in TNG. Tobias Richter, working with Probert, did complete a full up CGI version of the Ambassador class as seen here.

Well, IIRC, Probert's design came first (hence the wall design int he Ob.Lounge) but when it came time to build the model for the episode it was deemed easier/cheaper to build a more simplified version. We could probably interpret the design in the Ob-Lounge as a stylized take on the ship rather than a true representation.

It won't happen, but it'd be great if the BD version of YE restored the original Probert design for the Ent-C/Ambassador.

sojourner · October 18 2012, 03:35 AM

Circus Peanut wrote:

Well, IIRC, Probert's design came first (hence the wall design int he Ob.Lounge) but when it came time to build the model for the episode it was deemed easier/cheaper to build a more simplified version. We could probably interpret the design in the Ob-Lounge as a stylized take on the ship rather than a true representation.

I don't think my post denies any of that. Though I don't recall the reason they went with Rick's new design instead of Probert's when building the 4 footer for YE.

Trekker4747 · October 18 2012, 04:11 AM

Like I said, I think they went with Sternbach's design simply because it was easier and cheaper to build for a one-off model for one episode. (Unless, my earlier saying of that told you about it and this is just being needlessly redundant in which case, disregard.)

Tiberius · October 18 2012, 04:14 AM

Circus Peanut wrote:

Like I said, I think they went with Sternbach's design simply because it was easier and cheaper to build for a one-off model for one episode. (Unless, my earlier saying of that told you about it and this is just being needlessly redundant in which case, disregard.)

That's certainly the reason I;ve heard. Probert's design had too many compound curves which are difficult to build. Sternbach's Ambassador was much easier to build.

Rick Sternbach · October 18 2012, 03:30 PM

Cadeus wrote:

I am very sorry for the Star Wars plug, but it was most appropriate. I am trying to organize enough info to build a 1:350 scale Enterprise-C. I have a bunch of references, but I lack the accurate blue-prints.

The orthos that I have are only partially detailed and aren't leaving their storage tubes for now, sorry. Greg Jein's studio model of the ship turned out somewhat different from the drawings, so the real arbiter of proportions and details is the studio model, and the drawings would actually lead you astray. The AMT/Ertl kit is probably the closest thing you'll find to a properly proportioned and detailed model, though some of the lines are a little bit off in a few places.

Rick

October 16 2012, 04:50 AM	#1
Cadeus Ensign	Help me, Rick Sternbach, you're my only hope! I am very sorry for the Star Wars plug, but it was most appropriate. I am trying to organize enough info to build a 1:350 scale Enterprise-C. I have a bunch of references, but I lack the accurate blue-prints. I was hoping I could cast a line out and maybe Rick Sternbach might actually contact me. It is hoping for a lot, but I would love to have the accurate prints, so I can do this vessel justice... at 1:350 scale, if something is off, it is gonna be noticeable. Thanks for looking, and I hope to hear from you!

October 16 2012, 05:19 PM	#2
Trekker4747 To boldly go... Location: Kansas City	Re: Help me, Rick Sternbach, you're my only hope! Since Andrew Probert designed the ship he might be of more help to you. __________________ Just because it's futuristic doesn't mean it's practical.

October 16 2012, 05:22 PM	#3
Tiberius Commodore	Re: Help me, Rick Sternbach, you're my only hope! The Galaxy Class blueprints have huge sheets with the exterior schematics on them. Can you find them on eBay or something? __________________ The Best of Both Worlds eBook \| Every episode of Trek in viewing order Tiberius

October 16 2012, 08:40 PM	#6
Tiberius Commodore	Re: Help me, Rick Sternbach, you're my only hope! Yeah, that's the one I meant. And sorry for the blunder, I read it as Enterprise D... Here's some stuff that may help... Ventral view And this one I think you'll find quite useful. Here's another one. And for the slight modification that was done to the Ambassador class... __________________ The Best of Both Worlds eBook \| Every episode of Trek in viewing order Tiberius Last edited by Tiberius; October 16 2012 at 09:01 PM.

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sojourner Vice Admiral Location: I'm at WKRP	Re: Help me, Rick Sternbach, you're my only hope! Sternbach designed the Enterprise - C. Probert designed the Ambassador class. There's a distinct difference there. Sternbach's design was the version used for Yesterday's Enterprise and subsequently the model was re-used in DS9. Probert's version was never used except as the inaccurate gold display case model we see in TNG. Tobias Richter, working with Probert, did complete a full up CGI version of the Ambassador class as seen here. __________________ Baby, you and me were never meant to be, just maybe think of me once in a while...

October 18 2012, 04:11 AM	#13
Trekker4747 To boldly go... Location: Kansas City	Re: Help me, Rick Sternbach, you're my only hope! Like I said, I think they went with Sternbach's design simply because it was easier and cheaper to build for a one-off model for one episode. (Unless, my earlier saying of that told you about it and this is just being needlessly redundant in which case, disregard.) __________________ Just because it's futuristic doesn't mean it's practical.